Vineyard From the Beginning- Grapeman

[Dennis Griffith]

It will make the wife happy. I have a spot almost ready. Which root stock would you recommend?

 

[CK55]

It will make the wife happy. I have a spot almost ready. Which root stock would you recommend?

What is your soil like?

 

[Dennis Griffith]

The acreage was farmed for many years, so it is considered 'nutrient challenged'. It is clay rich, but the section I'll use has been amended and sub soiled several times. I'll check it again before spring and amend accordingly before planting, but the soil has a clay component and should be considered 'heavy, but humus rich'. Drainage is ok, but due to the clay, has a lot of water retention.

 

[CK55]

For clay I would do 101-14mgt because it's a clay rootstock. Or 3309.

You might be able to get away with 1103 Paulsen as well as its widely adaptable and less suceptible to issues from too much or too little water. Since waterlogging will be a issue for 3309.

 

[Bobp]

Grape man I haven't seen any updates in quite a while....since last year actually.....hows it going? Hows it looking?

Not to be rude......but ....Folks this was a great forum topic, it be real nice if we could hold our squirrel chases in a different post......it disrupted the progression of the story....

 

[Dennis Griffith]

I must apologize for hi-jacking the thread. It was not intentional, we just got carried away and I can be quite verbose at times. I face the same issues as grapeman, so any help is appreciated.

 

[justsgm]

I want to start a small vineyard in Bergen County, NJ probably start with an acre or two and I'm looking for a consultant to help me out. For compensation of course. Any recommendations.

 

[srcorndog]

For clay I would do 101-14mgt because it's a clay rootstock. Or 3309.

You might be able to get away with 1103 Paulsen as well as its widely adaptable and less suceptible to issues from too much or too little water. Since waterlogging will be a issue for 3309.

Soil sample and a perp test for drainage first amend the soil will take about a year to complete

 

[meridaen]

You might be able to get away with 1103 Paulsen as well as its widely adaptable and less suceptible to issues from too much or too little water.

Must say I'm glad to read this. Just planted some vines on Paulsen into reasonably clay-heavy soil next to a lake, so they'll find the water pretty damn quickly I'm assuming.

 

[acallan921]

I am so excited to have found this thread!!! My vines are due to be delivered the first week of April and I have been preparing since last summer. I can't wait to read more! Thanks so much and if possible, I may ask a question or two as I go along!! So EXCITED!

 

[joeswine]

I am beginning a new thread to sort of document planting a new vineyard from beginning forward. The methods I use here are not standard issue, but are using methods I have gleaned from my 45 years of farming, ag college and working in research trials, including my own. Don't expect it to begin all inclusive, but it will build upon itself as time goes on.

How many decades have you been doing this ( apple man) .

 

[willowhomestead]

The ole East/West, North/South debate will go on forever. I am of the camp that I plant whatever direction makes the most sense for the plot. A lot depends on the latitude where you are located. Where I am at, the vines get about the same amount of sun either orientation. The new vineyard will be running east/west.

Thank you for saying this. We've been going back and forth on this very thing. East/west just feels right with the land we have chosen. After visiting a few sucessful vineyards with every configuration possible, we are more confident that our little vineyard isn't doomed from the start.