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That was one I purchased as well. Short the water a bit, EM for at least a month, and let it age for 3 years or more before you start tasting the occasional bottle.

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I tried.

The jury is still out on the quality factor, as they haven't been out long enough for anyone to be sure.

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If it tastes ok to you then enjoy it. Water or not, it should still get better with age, so don't blow through it too quickly. Blending a watered down wine with one that isn't will just create something in between the two.

After topping up with 3/4 of a gallon of water, it certainly wouldn't hurt. You're likely to have created Cabernet Lite* at this point, or 30 bottles of a decent base for Sangria. Never top with water. Always use wine, or rack down as a second option.

Correct.

I'm giving them a try. I pre-ordered a couple of RQ's.

Don't get your hopes up. I have yet to find a decent kit version of a Petite Sirah. Mosti Mondiale has an ok rendition in their all-juice line, but it took three years of aging before it was remotely good, plus it's difficult to find for a reasonable price.

For Winexpert kits, try Labelpeelers, for a better deal than the place in FL.

This thread is about RJS RQ2021, not the Winexpert LE's. That explains the discrepancy in pricing. RQ's are $165ish shipped.

They had issues with this website years ago, it got a bit ugly, so they became known as the unmentionable place in FL.

The place in FL definitely does not include shipping, $165ish shipped to the Chicago area. I wish I had a local wine shop such as yours. They would be getting all my business.

I've been using them as well. Unfortunately they don't do pre-orders on the RQs. They will place an order for them late this year, but there's no guarantee they'll receive any.

It should be good, as are most Mosti kits. I just don't get why they're re-branding them as MV.

Did the label look like the one on JohnW's kit? If so, it would confirm that his Pinot is a Mosti kit, re-boxed as a Master Vintner.

Anyone have a Mosti kit on hand? I'm betting the "Country of Origin" sticker looks just like the one pictured above by JohnW.

In my experience with Master Vintner, every kit has been a repackaged RJ Spagnols kit, or more recently a Mosti Mondiale kit. There is no Master Vintner, it's just an attempt at marketing and building a new brand. Maybe one day Tim Vandergrift has plans to start processing juice, but at this...