i have found 3 gallon water jugs at walmart..i use the 5 gallon water jugs to make wine. I am going to get two Fontana kits..Shiraz and Melbec or Pinot Noir...or just Shirah. THEN I AM GOING TO MAKE 8 GALLONS OUT OF 2 KITS NO SUGAR ADDS...JUST THE NORMALS. MAY I ASK YOU GUYS YOUR FAVORITE RED...