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I use a Untoasted oak in my Chardonnay's... it works great

While everything stated in the last two pages of this thread are likely accurate, I tend to be more pragmatic. For centuries wine has been made without all the modern gadgets. And they hardly had the vaccum capabilities we have today, they relied on sulfites! Wine is more forgiving than you...

Mlf on kits is not advisable,

If you ferment to dry and bulk age that long, you can also forego the Sorbate addition.

Yeah, but how will this fare in July when temps hit 100 +!? My kits take 3-4 days to arrive and don't see this working too well in summer.

Finer Kits Reds are IMO far superior to all others. I think the whites are on par with the RJS EP kits too. Definitely better than the lower and mid level WE kits. Wine Grapes Direct has nice frozen must options but are VERY expensive and Grapemust.com is 1/2 the price and includes free delivery!

Just hit it again with another dose of Kieselsol and Chitosan and it'll clear.

I add the F pack right before bulk aging, I want all things to marry together over time.

I do both methods depending on what I have on hand at the time. I do prefer this combo over just ColorPro.

Using Llalzyme EX-V (enzyme) along with the Opti Red is a great combination that covers all attributes and better than just ColorPro IMO.

You can always order some FWK skins from LP and add those.

Has anyone ever cold soaked their red FWK's prior to pitching? Wonder if there is a benefit

Update!!! So it turns out that the LP website stating these yield 24 gallons was incorrect. They actually reconstitute to 15.7 gallons! So basically the are 7 L WE Classic kits only in a double size (14L) platform. Not the value we had thought. Once I made LP aware they have since corrected...

24 hrs here

I think skins need frozen however, they would not hold for more than a week in the fridge.

This time of year with the volume of Christmas packages and how busy they are, I doubt the even ask and assume it's gifts.

Yep, sure am as I have six bottles packaged up and ready to ship 👍

Are you in WA? You mentioned the Okanagan and I live in Spokane is why I ask.

Call me silly, but wouldn't an "American White Zin" be similar?