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6 days on the skins. This is my 4th year doing Norton and this is the first time I had a problem. My favorite winery Norton is about 3.5 ph. Next time I won't worry about a 3.6 or 3.7 reading for something as tricky as a Norton. I also should have taste tested as I added the Tartaric acid. Live...

One other thought-this year I used a PVC pipe that I drilled holes in to facilitate pumping the juice out of the must from the primary into a carbon . Could that be a factor?

I didn't get the TA when I got the most and I don't have the ability to measure it now. Up until this point I typically just rely upon the pH levels. Although maybe for Norton that isn't enough. We have some cold nights coming up next week so I definitely will at least try a cold crash.

Last night I added Tartaric acid in the amount reccomended in the instructions to lower ph by %.18. This afternoon I tested again and the ph has barely budged and the wine, which had tasted somewhat flabby before, now is very tart. I fear I have screwed up about 10 gallons worth of Norton.

I used Premier Cuvée yeast. No MLF fermentation, at least none on purpose.

I got my usual batch of Norton must this year with the typical ph level of 3.45. I did add oak powder this year to it and to my Chambourcin during fermentation for the first time. After a couple of rackings I checked the ph levels on both. The Chambourcin was about 3.5 but the Norton was about...

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Final report-I forgot and left a gallon of Tramminette outside,for,a,week and it froze,solid. Net result was a fair amount of sediment dropping once it thawed. I am not sure if freezing is preferable to waiting it out but I am thinking that the more freezing means more clearing.

I tried adding raisins once to a low-end Riesling kit in an attempt to increase the body. My opinion of the results was that it didn't help with the body and it increased the alcohol content.

No prob. I usually get Norton, Chambourcin must.

I call around August and tell them what I am looking for. Ask for Marilyn. They then call me when it comes in or you can drop off a pail or two and they will fill it for you if you don't think you can come the day(s) that juice comes in. So far I have been able to get juice or must from anything...

LBV does. I am not aware of a minimum purchase requirement but I usually buy at least 5 gallons or more.

I thought it was good right out of the carboy!

I had the same kit and I called them about the lack of oak powder. They said that oak powder does not come with that kit and to ignore that part of the instructions. Now why they couldn't mention that in the instructions...

Julie, the cold crash tests were inconsistent. But some containers did drops sediment or "clouds" of something. I am wondering if the temperatures that you stored your Traminette in would also be a factor also in getting your wine cleared.

Julie, before I saw you post I set several batches outside again. Woke up this morning to a range of results from not even slushy to almost frozen through. I am letting them warm up and I will see if I can replicate my prior result of slushy wine dropping a lot of sediment. I tried just putting...

Spaniel, I did try pectic enzyme. I have been cold soaking them outside for the past few days. The temperature range has been in the 30s. So far no settlement drop like it did when a batch was so cold that it got a little slushy.

Tramminette slush results- after it thawed I had sediment that had dropped. Not an insignificant amount either considering that it had already been racked a few times since I started it in September. Probably clear enough to bottle if I wanted to do it now. I am setting some more outside and I...

I got my Tramminette juice from les bourgeois vineyard in Rocheport, Mo. I have tried the cold crash on a batch. But the problem is that it got so cold that I now have Tramminette Slushy. I will give Superclear another shot in 70+ temps if it doesn't clear soon.

I use the dishwasher whenever possible. Biggest problem is making sure no labels to get washed off also. So far no problems using the dishwasher to clean and sanitize. But almost all of my bottles are rinsed immediately after the last use.