Mosti Mondiale All Masters Amarone vs. Meglioli?

[abefroman]

How much difference is there with the All Masters Amarone vs. Meglioli?

Is the juice from Italy in both?

TIA

 

[joeswine]

HERES MY TAKE ON THAT,I'VE MADE AMARONE FROM JUICE AND NEVER FROM A KIT ,HOW EVER FROM JUICE IT TAKES AT LEAST 2 TO 3 YEARS WITH HANDS ON WORK AND A DESIRE TO BE AS GOOD AS A AMARONE CAN BE- OUT OF YOUR BASEMENT,IT IS A BLEND OF JUICES AND OAKS AND RESINS,MUCH LIKE MAKING A GOOD SAUCE,IT TAKES LAYERS OF FLAVORS AND TIME TO PERFECT,IT CAN BE DONE,BUT IT TAKES WORK,PATIENCE AND DESIRE ,A GREAT CHALLENGE TO TRY IF YOU HAVE THE ABOVE TRAITS FOR THIS WINE, THEN BY ALL MEANS GO FOR IT,OR JUST BY A KIT AND CALL IT A DAY, DO I THINK ANY JUICE WE BUY CAN STAND ALONE NOT AT ALL....

 

[ibglowin]

How much difference is there with the All Masters Amarone vs. Meglioli?

About $40 difference in your wallet. Both juices are high quality with the Meglioli supposedly their highest quality but you would be hard pressed to tell any taste difference.

Is the juice from Italy in both?TIA

Yes!

 

[joeswine]

where these juices? is one a kit or both fresh juice if there fresh juice what do they finish out with a v.,wade had sent me a amerone as a taste treat and it was good,very good,that was a kit, IT just went head to head with 57 different red wines in a blind tasting and the amarone scored third highest overall,using the cal.davis score method the other two were kits,there's a marked difference in what we can do with the product we are given to work with and The final outcome,i'm not saying those of us who use fresh juice cant make a decent bottle of wine ,we can and (for my own accounting) do ,but the out come is not as sure as a kit,there usually spot on,for what there end product is supposed to be ,for them,but not quite ,so getting back to the amerone ,this is a hard product to try and mimic,its not in my opinion like a cab,or shiraz,its unto itself,as a footnote all the italian wines up here come in cincinnati and are distributed from that point,the twO vendors up here are procacci bros. and ginos, and they both get them from there,,we have discovered as a overall group that they lack aroma after fermentation and the body of the wine is thin body,that's way all the talk about putting bananas in the mix ,no italian wine maker in italy would dream of doing that ,i truly think its time to find out the what they are really selling us ,AND WHAT THE DULUTIONFACTOR IS,SORRY IF I GOT ON A SOUP BOX BUT THIS HAS BEEN A QUESTION THAT HAS BEEN ON MY MIND FOR YEARS NOW,,THIS SEASON I CUT BACK ON MY VOLUMNE OF MAKING AND CONCENTRATED ON PERFECTING THE WINE I WILL MAKE,

 

[Wade E]

Hi Joe, that was the RJS EP Amarone. I have not tried the Mosti Masters or Meglioli but would love to compare both of these to the RJS as IMO its better then any other kit including the Cellar Craft. There are just certain wines that IMO you just cant get the products for for fresh juice or grapes to make these very special wines so go big and get the best when doing so IMO. I do believe that either of these 2 Mosti products will make a Damn Good Amarone! Which one is better, most likely the Meglioli but like probably not a huge difference.

 

[joeswine]

WADE YOUR SAYING THEN THESE WERE KITS?,IF SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THIS BETTER,IF THEIR FRESH JUICE THERE CAN'T BE MUCH DIFFERENCE,TO GIVE YOU A TRUE COMPARISON,I MADE TAMPENELLO FROM GRAPES 2009,FINISHED IN 2011,FOUR DAYS AGO I STARTED A WE TAMPENELLO KIT JUST TO COMPARE THE DIFFERENCES AND IN 6/8 WEEKS I'LL HAVE A SIDE BY SIDE ....THANKS FOR THE IMPUT.........

 

[tonyt]

I have not tried the Mosti Masters or Meglioli but would love to compare both of these to the RJS as IMO its better then any other kit including the Cellar Craft.

Wade, I will be bottling the MM Megloli Amarone in May, started last July. When you notice me posting about bottling remind me and we can swap a bottle or a split and compare. I suffer from CRS so it's likely I'll forget.

 

[joeswine]

please count me in on the swap....if possible...

 

[Wade E]

Will do!!!!!!!

 

[v1rotate]

I suffer from CRS so it's likely I'll forget.

 

[tonyt]

Today is bottling day for the MMM Amarone that I started last summer. WOW, hands down the most outstanding wine taste at bottling. It's coming out of the barrel and into bottles about 3 weeks earlier than I anticipated. My wife and I taste once a week from the barrel and last night decided it was exactly where we wanted. I didn't have a barrel last summer when I started this so I added all of the provided oak plus some. So three weeks in the Vadai was all it took, and made a huge and positive difference.

Looking back over my notes this is the most tweaked kit I have done to date, guess I'm feeling my oats now. Here's how it went:
Mosti Mondiale Meglioli Amarone with raisins followed the kit plus -
Added one cup of dried cherries on day two of fermentation.
In addition to provided oak added 3oz of Hungarian cubes during carboy aging.
extended aging 8 months.
Added 1/4 tsp of TanCor Grand Cru when it went into the barrel mid March.
Barrel aged 3 weeks.
Added 6oz of Glycerine two days prior to bottling.

ps. Wade and Joe, I remember!

 

[joeswine]

sounds delisious.........

cherries hum,dried ?

 

[tonyt]

sounds delisious.........

cherries hum,dried ?

Yes, dried. Just threw them in on a whim. Thought it would never clear, took about 5 weeks. Blamed the cherries but the MMM Amarone that is clearing right now is on week 5 and still not completely clear.

 

[joeswine]

hows it clearing,,,need some everkleer?