Botched interpretation of Bendonite

[TrashKan]

I was gifted a small amount of Calcium Bendonite Clay and wasn't clear about mixing it initially. Instead of mixing 2tbs into a 1/2 cup 140° water and then mixing that slurry per tsp per gallon. I mixed 9tbs into 2 cups water. Would it be ok to use 1 tbs of that to clarify 4 gallons of mixed berry country wine

 

[winemaker81]

Since you were going to add 2 Tbsp and made up 9 Tbsp, I'd add 1/4 of the mixture to the wine. 1 Tbsp of the mixture will be too little.

 

[BernardSmith]

Let's do the arithmetic, TrashKan.
Let's say 1 T = 15 g, so 2 T = 30 g, Let's further agree that 1 C = 230 ml = 230 g , and so 1/2 C = 115 g. Let's agree that 15g of Bentonite + 115 g of water = 130 g of solution, and so if 1 t = 5 g which is 5/130 of the solution. = 0.038 of the solution you are asked to apply to each gallon. To apply this then to FOUR gallons, you need to multiply 0.038 by 4 = or .153 9or more than 1/10th of the volume of the solution Bentonite asks you to make.
But , you mixed 9T which is 135 g in 2 C (which = 460 g) and so the total volume/weight = 595 g total, 1 T = 15 g which is 15/595 = 0.025 which is what you want to apply to 4 gallons. You need to add SIX times the 1 T , or 6 T to add the correct amount of the clay slurry... That's my story and I am sticking to it.

 

[TrashKan]

Let's do the arithmetic, TrashKan.
Let's say 1 T = 15 g, so 2 T = 30 g, Let's further agree that 1 C = 230 ml = 230 g , and so 1/2 C = 115 g. Let's agree that 15g of Bentonite + 115 g of water = 130 g of solution, and so if 1 t = 5 g which is 5/130 of the solution. = 0.038 of the solution you are asked to apply to each gallon. To apply this then to FOUR gallons, you need to multiply 0.038 by 4 = or .153 9or more than 1/10th of the volume of the solution Bentonite asks you to make.
But , you mixed 9T which is 135 g in 2 C (which = 460 g) and so the total volume/weight = 595 g total, 1 T = 15 g which is 15/595 = 0.025 which is what you want to apply to 4 gallons. You need to add SIX times the 1 T , or 6 T to add the correct amount of the clay slurry... That's my story and I am sticking to it.

I appreciate the breakdown on the math. Having sustained a severe head trauma recently I find it difficult to maintain a certain level of clarity at times

 

[wineview]

I was gifted a small amount of Calcium Bendonite Clay and wasn't clear about mixing it initially. Instead of mixing 2tbs into a 1/2 cup 140° water and then mixing that slurry per tsp per gallon. I mixed 9tbs into 2 cups water. Would it be ok to use 1 tbs of that to clarify 4 gallons of mixed berry country wine

9 Tbls into 2 cups of water must have been a treat. I find mixing small amounts slowly makes it easier to handle. I’m surprised you didn’t have a clay ball.

 

[TrashKan]

9 Tbls into 2 cups of water must have been a treat. I find mixing small amounts slowly makes it easier to handle. I’m surprised you didn’t have a clay ball.

I had actually mixed it in an old Fireball pint bottle and spent the majority of the evening Shaking it around and my lovely wife took turns with me

 

[wineview]

I had actually mixed it in an old Fireball pint bottle and spent the majority of the evening Shaking it around and my lovely wife took turns with me

Yep. Not fun.

 

[winemaker81]

I had actually mixed it in an old Fireball pint bottle and spent the majority of the evening Shaking it around and my lovely wife took turns with me

Kit wines typically state to mix 2 Tbsp bentonite in 2 to 4 quarts of hot water.

On the plus side, you got your exercise for that evening!

 

[Arne]

@winemaker81 2-4 quarts or cups?

 

[winemaker81]

@winemaker81 2-4 quarts or cups?

quarts, e.g., 32 US ounces.

It's a good idea to verify things like this, as folks (especially including me) occasionally have a disconnect between the brain and keyboard, and type the wrong word.

 

[wineview]

quarts, e.g., 32 US ounces.

It's a good idea to verify things like this, as folks (especially including me) occasionally have a disconnect between the brain and keyboard, and type the wrong word.

2-4 quarts makes no sense.

 

[winemaker81]

2-4 quarts makes no sense.

Sure it does, for a kit where I'm adding 3 to 4.5 gallons of water to the concentrate. First few quarts are used to mix the bentonite, then the concentrate, then fill 'er up to 6 US gallons.

 

[wineview]

Oh. I thought you meant an additional 2-4 qts What you just now described makes sense.

 

[winemaker81]

Oh. I thought you meant an additional 2-4 qts What you just now described makes sense.

Text is a hard medium for discussion! I'm happy we ironed out the situation.

 

[Arne]

My thoughts too. Thought you were adding later. Funny how things get mixed up typing where in person would be no problem. Arne.

 

[TrashKan]

My thoughts too. Thought you were adding later. Funny how things get mixed up typing where in person would be no problem. Arne.

Me too...but this isn't a kit, it is 40# strawberry, 25# cherry and 15# blueberry. I am fortunate to be friendly with the produce guy at the local grocery store and we have an arrangement