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I have switched over to using WineStix. These words from Daniel Pambianchi - "WineStix impart oak aromas/flavors and tannins at a much slower (and more ideal) rate than, for example, spirals. IMO, WineStix better replicate barrels in making silkier wines without overpowering oak." I leave them in the wine for upwards of 6-8 months while bulk aging and don't get any hint of over Oaked. I purchase them in bulk and they are about $4 per stick. Once used they are used up and gone.