Thanks Bert,
Is there such a thing as using too many berries? I used 4 bags that had about 4-41/2 lbs in each, was trying for 6 gallons but the straining bag must have taken up alot of room in the primary. Squeezed the dickens out ofthe bag when transferedgot about a gallon out of it which made the color quite a bit darker.
sorry just ramblin here, will keep ya posted of next step.