How many spout filler should I use

[New2Wine]

I'm new to making wine...actually, about to make wine. I spoke with a friend and he spends days bottling but I like to be a little more efficient than him. I was looking at the small, 1 bottle at a time Enolmatic and was wondering if that was reasonable for doing 5-10 cases at a shot. I'm not big on "plastic" equipment but wondering if that is a good fit and holds up. Should I look for 2 or 4 spouts for this small quantity? Other suggestions are appreciated.

I'm still shopping for all the other things. I didn't know there was so much to learn and buy. Thanks,

 

[Runningwolf]

Welcome to our forum. Keep the questions coming as we can advise you. If you are only bottling 5-10 cases at a shot you are looking at the Cadillac of bottlers. Our sponsor Fine Vine Wines at the top of this page has one of the best prices on them in the country. Give them a call and he'll be very honest with you and guide you along the way with everything else you need. More important then this bottler in my opinion is getting a floor corker.

 

[AlFulchino]

i do in the course of a year 1000's of bottles and just purchased a bout two months ago an enolmatic from George at FVW.....outstanding machine...gonna add the filter to it soon as he carries it.....the machine beats the Buon Vino in my view..although the Buon Vino IS IS IS IS a Good Machine

if you are by yourself, you can only go so fast anyways..and if you have a helper then they can do the corking.....ten cases is only 120 bottles....so w the enolmatic this can be done in 45 minutes or less

 

[Wade E]

The Enolmatic is very highly rated for this exact amount of usage. I already have a pump so Im looking at getting this and attach it to my counter top. The Stainless Steel filler and stand.

 

[AlFulchino]

that pic is eerie Wade..that is the exact same granite and also backsplash tile that i have in my kitchen...

 

[Wade E]

Must be that filler or maybe the dble they have calling your name then!!!!

 

[grapeman]

Here is what Wade is talking about set up with a filter also.

 

[KSmith3011]

All those filters take the goodness out of the wine. I prefer my wine a bit more,,,, "chewy".

 

[Runningwolf]

Here is what Wade is talking about set up with a filter also.

Who sells that stainless filler?

 

[AlFulchino]

"chewy"

i agree..but on a white you have to filter it...the peach i am releasing this week is unfiltered.....

 

[Wade E]

Valley Vintner sells it but e sitting down when you see the price tag! It is sweet though. There are just some wines you have to filter. I dont do it much but had to do it on my last peach wine. It sat there for 8.5 months and never cleared, just stayed hazy and even used a fining agent on it after that and although it did help it was still cloudy. Against everything I kn ew I ran it through a filter and it didnt clog it and it came out crystal clear. I have no idea what it was as I used pectin enzyme and plenty of it. If you are selling it commercially you want it sparkling clear.

 

[AlFulchino]

Wade was your peach wine sweet?

i queried my customers..they want my peach unfiltered....its a smooth abundantly peachy one....i have bottled half of it as unfiltered..we will see how the general public sees it and if they are like my test group

 

[grapeman]

Dan the filler is from Valley Vintner. You can buy the spout for $225 but the unit is unavailable right now. When I got it, it was $250 for the whole thing on sale or 225 for just the filler. They also sell a two spout unit. You can get a kit with everything in it most of the time but about 600 for the single and almost a thousand for the two spout- with vacuum pump, etc. I considered what I got economical, but anything more gets expensive. I did have to call them because I could not get it to do anything. After taking the filler apart and examining, the small orifice had a piece of gunk in it. I cleared it with a small drill bit and it has worked flawlessly.

As a side note, you can buy replacement parts (plastic) for the enolmatic from St. Pats. Thats where I got the two spouts for my 2 spout filler.

 

[Wade E]

Very interesting test there Al. I would surely have to buy one of each just to see the difference, could be your ultimate selling point! My Peach wine was Semi-sweet but was cloudy for many months before I sweetened it and it didnt make it cloudier or help it in any way.

 

[Wade E]

Its $250 for just the nozzle but that whole stand in that picture is $355!

 

[Runningwolf]

I just use a Enolmatic and thats fine for me. As for the stainless and all, you dont need all that to do the job, most likely would make it easier but there is a line I draw between just being out of control. I like to make the job at hand easier but also keep it simple stupid also.

 

[Wade E]

I only want that because I dont need another pump. If the Enolmatic would replace my vacuum pump it would be a no brainer.