Hello all at winemakingtalk.com!
I am a newcomer to the forum, as I am too to winemaking.
Located in Nova Scotia, Canada, I purchased approx. 200kg of Marechal Foch red grapes two weeks ago. Stemmed and crushed they amounted to 175 L of must.
Here I went wrong for the first time : after de-stemming and crushing (which took lots of hands and a LONG days work) I was a little sloppy in adding K meta to the must. I wanted SO2 to be around 70 ppm (as I had some rot on the grapes), which - if my math is correct - works out to around 70 x 175 x 0.0017 = 20 g or 4 teaspoons. But my teaspoon-fulls may have been a little high, so I am guessing that amounted to more like 30g of K meta or 100 ppm of SO2...
The must tested in at 20 Brix, 11.5 g/L TA, and ph 3.2 (I know, terrible for wine making, but not so bad for our poor little northern Novascotian peninsula!)
I then cold soaked for about 24 hours, and inoculated with EC-1118, added sugar to raise sugar levels to 23.5 Brix (to reach 13.5% v/v alcohol), and the must rapidly fermented to dryness in just over 5 days. I pressed into carboys, and tests now show a TA of 8.5 g/L and ph 3.6.
Now to lower the acidity (which is still quite bracing) I wanted to put the wine through MLF, and then when winter sets in (and MLF is over) put it through a little bit of cold stab to precipitate some of the tartric... but my previous mistake has caught up with me : free SO2 levels are testing somewhere in the 40-50 ppm range (Chemetrics "Titrates" are anything but accurate... especially on reds!) and my research seems to show that at those levels MLF will be almost totally, if not totally, inhibited... (see here for more info)
I know I could also reduce the acidity with calcium carbonate or any other deacidification technique, but I would like to avoid this if possible (I know, my very first mistake was that I should have lowered TA of the must before even inoculating... too late now!) and I would really like to get some of the green apple taste out as that is rather predominant right now.
Another issue on my mind is the high price of ML bacteria, which I have already purchased for something around 70$!! and which I really, really don't want to waist.
So I am appealing to the more experienced wine makers out there, what would you do here (other than not have made my two previous mistakes!) :
-Do you think that by spring, the SO2 will have bound up enough that I can inoculate with ML and get a decent MLF then? With comparable results in taste and acid reduction that I would have had with MLF being performed right now?
-Or will the SO2 never fall below ML-inhibiting levels and should I just forget about ever getting rid of my malic acid?
-If so then is there a more elegant - and less chalk tasting - way of reducing my TA (I read that using CaCl to drop TA more than 3 g/L would surely result in taste change, and I can quite believe it : the amount of chalk needed to reach 6g/L TA would be around 400g!)
Thanks in advance for any advice you have.
Regards,
Mark.
I am a newcomer to the forum, as I am too to winemaking.
Located in Nova Scotia, Canada, I purchased approx. 200kg of Marechal Foch red grapes two weeks ago. Stemmed and crushed they amounted to 175 L of must.
Here I went wrong for the first time : after de-stemming and crushing (which took lots of hands and a LONG days work) I was a little sloppy in adding K meta to the must. I wanted SO2 to be around 70 ppm (as I had some rot on the grapes), which - if my math is correct - works out to around 70 x 175 x 0.0017 = 20 g or 4 teaspoons. But my teaspoon-fulls may have been a little high, so I am guessing that amounted to more like 30g of K meta or 100 ppm of SO2...
The must tested in at 20 Brix, 11.5 g/L TA, and ph 3.2 (I know, terrible for wine making, but not so bad for our poor little northern Novascotian peninsula!)
I then cold soaked for about 24 hours, and inoculated with EC-1118, added sugar to raise sugar levels to 23.5 Brix (to reach 13.5% v/v alcohol), and the must rapidly fermented to dryness in just over 5 days. I pressed into carboys, and tests now show a TA of 8.5 g/L and ph 3.6.
Now to lower the acidity (which is still quite bracing) I wanted to put the wine through MLF, and then when winter sets in (and MLF is over) put it through a little bit of cold stab to precipitate some of the tartric... but my previous mistake has caught up with me : free SO2 levels are testing somewhere in the 40-50 ppm range (Chemetrics "Titrates" are anything but accurate... especially on reds!) and my research seems to show that at those levels MLF will be almost totally, if not totally, inhibited... (see here for more info)
I know I could also reduce the acidity with calcium carbonate or any other deacidification technique, but I would like to avoid this if possible (I know, my very first mistake was that I should have lowered TA of the must before even inoculating... too late now!) and I would really like to get some of the green apple taste out as that is rather predominant right now.
Another issue on my mind is the high price of ML bacteria, which I have already purchased for something around 70$!! and which I really, really don't want to waist.
So I am appealing to the more experienced wine makers out there, what would you do here (other than not have made my two previous mistakes!) :
-Do you think that by spring, the SO2 will have bound up enough that I can inoculate with ML and get a decent MLF then? With comparable results in taste and acid reduction that I would have had with MLF being performed right now?
-Or will the SO2 never fall below ML-inhibiting levels and should I just forget about ever getting rid of my malic acid?
-If so then is there a more elegant - and less chalk tasting - way of reducing my TA (I read that using CaCl to drop TA more than 3 g/L would surely result in taste change, and I can quite believe it : the amount of chalk needed to reach 6g/L TA would be around 400g!)
Thanks in advance for any advice you have.
Regards,
Mark.