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50L Hungarian barrel Timing will work perfectly for Spring ‘20 grapes and then roll right into fall grapes.Much obliged @mainshipfred. It was great seeing you this morning. Enjoy your South African crush today and good luck! View attachment 60258
AJ, do you have wine in the barrel yet? If you don't do you have any way of weighing it and giving me the dimensions. If there is already wine in it the dimensions would be great. I need it to estimate shipping costs for another member.
Question for the barrel owning community. I have a Cab-Syrah blend that will be turning 1 year old. I hit it with 90 gr of French and Hungarian medium+ Toast oak cubes for each 6 gal of wine. I also have a 2 year old OVZin, which I think I dropped 60 gr of oak/6 gal carboy. The OVZ is a little light and tart while the C/S blend is really spot on.
They’re both going to be shuffled after this year’s crush and I have about 16 gallons of each.
Here’s the question: would you barrel age either of them? I was thinking I might. Suggestions please.
They’re both going to be shuffled after this year’s crush and I have about 16 gallons of each.
Here’s the question: would you barrel age either of them? I was thinking I might. Suggestions please.
Ajmassa
just a guy
Just seeing this post now. If you still need this info I can get it for you. Barrel is still empty. Been busy lately and have yet to fill ‘r up.
That would be great if you could and glad your busy.
Ajmassa
just a guy
50L barrel specs
44 lbs.
20” length
17” diameter heads
19-1/4” diameter middle
Not exact but good enough for shipping estimate purposes. If the container was exactly 20” x 20” x 20” and the barrel was factory wrapped with the cardboard around the heads then it would be tight. Might need to bump to the next size up.
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Thank you AJ!50L barrel specs
44 lbs.
20” length
17” diameter heads
19-1/4” diameter middle
Not exact but good enough for shipping estimate purposes. If the container was exactly 20” x 20” x 20” and the barrel was factory wrapped with the cardboard around the heads then it would be tight. Might need to bump to the next size up.
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Ajmassa
just a guy
Getting those measurements prompted me to get this thing prepped and filled finally. Spring wines are stabilized but still not racked. Time to get to work! It’s already August lol
Barrel has sat so long was inevitable that seams opened up. 1st fill was pouring out the heads on both sides at multiple locations. Staves looked good tho. Ihad already tightened the hell out of the rings.
Rinsed out and soaked with piping hot water and could literally see the oak swell and gaps closing up. I did the heads and inside 1/2 at a time a couple times and let soak over night. Lookin good. Just gotta sanitize and get filled this weekend now. Anticipating at least a little seepage at first
Was awesome that the barrel fit in the sink and was strong enough to hold it. looking forward to getting this filled, getting all the new wines in order and shift my focus to fall harvest!
Barrel has sat so long was inevitable that seams opened up. 1st fill was pouring out the heads on both sides at multiple locations. Staves looked good tho. Ihad already tightened the hell out of the rings.
Rinsed out and soaked with piping hot water and could literally see the oak swell and gaps closing up. I did the heads and inside 1/2 at a time a couple times and let soak over night. Lookin good. Just gotta sanitize and get filled this weekend now. Anticipating at least a little seepage at first
Was awesome that the barrel fit in the sink and was strong enough to hold it. looking forward to getting this filled, getting all the new wines in order and shift my focus to fall harvest!
pete1325
Senior Member
Wow.....now that's a sink! My plastic slop sink would never hold a barrel, not even an empty one.
pete1325
Senior Member
What size barrel is that?
Ajmassa
just a guy
Its a 50L. (~14gal) which is still just 1/ 4 of a standard full sized barrel. it’s my 2nd barrel My 1st one was a 30L also purchased from @mainshipfred
and yea I was hesitant with all the weight since the corners are all just welds but held up just fine. Love playing with new “toys” and some Tim the Toolman Taylor type grunts may or may not be overheard coming from my basement lol.
Mine is plastic as well but I wouldn't be without it. The only problem I have is it stains so easily.
Ajmassa
just a guy
Dry as a bone. 
Previous times I sanitized my barrel I’m pretty sure I went way overkill. I use a 3tbs of kmeta per gal dosage for solution. So I had made that dosage up for the full volume of the barrel. Seemed like a lot and a waste of kmeta.
so for this one mixed enough kmeta for 3gal (9tbs) and just filled it up with water and let sit overnight. Not sure if that’s gonna do the trick tho. The smell doesn’t punch you in the face like it normally would. any advice here?
*Decision was made because kmeta supply running low and didn’t wanna empty the bag
Previous times I sanitized my barrel I’m pretty sure I went way overkill. I use a 3tbs of kmeta per gal dosage for solution. So I had made that dosage up for the full volume of the barrel. Seemed like a lot and a waste of kmeta.
so for this one mixed enough kmeta for 3gal (9tbs) and just filled it up with water and let sit overnight. Not sure if that’s gonna do the trick tho. The smell doesn’t punch you in the face like it normally would. any advice here?
*Decision was made because kmeta supply running low and didn’t wanna empty the bag
Dry as a bone.
Previous times I sanitized my barrel I’m pretty sure I went way overkill. I use a 3tbs of kmeta per gal dosage for solution. So I had made that dosage up for the full volume of the barrel. Seemed like a lot and a waste of kmeta.
so for this one mixed enough kmeta for 3gal (9tbs) and just filled it up with water and let sit overnight. Not sure if that’s gonna do the trick tho. The smell doesn’t punch you in the face like it normally would. any advice here?
*Decision was made because kmeta supply running low and didn’t wanna empty the bag
I'd say it's fine. A new barrel shouldn't have any bugs in it anyway.
Ajmassa
just a guy
What’s your barrel sanitizing protocol?
For new barrels not a heck of a lot, probably less sulfate then you used.
So far, except for my whites barrel, if everything smells fine I just rinse them well and put the new wine in.
Just in case it wasn't clear in the previous post, when I referred to just rinsing before putting a new wine in I was referring to a barrel that was just emptied. When I said "So far" I should have followed with I never had to leave a red barrel empty.
Ajmassa
just a guy
I don’t even rinse when re-filling. I took a tip from @stickman and I will rotate the barrel for a few days. Rotate to 2:00 and 10:00 to make sure the roof is saturated well. (Random thought- “Roof” is the accepted term. But isn’t this technically the ceiling?)
then after emptying the residual wine remaining I like to view as a little gift left for the incoming wine
(unless gunked up. But I’ve been mainly using already cleared wines)
hdgypsyman
Junior
Fred
Did you ever find out if you could add a 30L to the order, or is the extra 25L still unspoken for? Either one would work for me. I looked back at our pm and shipping was $40 per barrel last time.
I'm pretty sure I was. Going out of town till Wednesday, will check when I get back.
