New wine and beer making room

[RaginCajun]

It’s finally happening! I’ve looked at most of the posts in this portion of the forum. There are some great ideas here.

A corner of my basement will be made into my new making and storage room for wine and beer. The room will be 12’x13’, will have two mop sinks, has a floor drain and lots of storage. I’m gonna make a 5.5’ section of X wine storage with 5.5’ of shelves for beer storage. I’ll have primary and carboy wall racks that will hold 4 primaries and 8-10 carboys.

The pics show what I started with and where I’m at after day 1. The tape outlines where the cabinets will be and a rough idea of the layout of the room.

Any ideas, suggestions or tips would be greatly appreciated.

Chris

 

[RaginCajun]

It’s finally happening! I’ve looked at most of the posts in this portion of the forum. There are some great ideas here.

A corner of my basement will be made into my new making and storage room for wine and beer. The room will be 12’x13’, will have two mop sinks, has a floor drain and lots of storage. I’m gonna make a 5.5’ section of X wine storage with 5.5’ of shelves for beer storage. I’ll have primary and carboy wall racks that will hold 4 primaries and 8-10 carboys.

The pics show what I started with and where I’m at after day 1. The tape outlines where the cabinets will be and a rough idea of the layout of the room.

Any ideas, suggestions or tips would be greatly appreciated.

Chris

Day 2. Insulation put up, one block wall painted and a good bit of framing complete.

 

[Boatboy24]

Well, you're not wasting any time. Nice!

 

[RaginCajun]

Well, you're not wasting any time. Nice!

No rest for the weary plus I need to strike while the wife is up for spending the money! Day three in the books. All the walls are framed, the electrical is roughed in and can’t do much more until I stain the floors.

 

[Johnd]

Looking good and making nice progress! Are you planning to insulate inside all of the walls or just the new stud walls?

 

[RaginCajun]

Looking good and making nice progress! Are you planning to insulate inside all of the walls or just the new stud walls?

Just the stud walls. The black wall is under my garage so no direct sunlight. I’ve checked the wall temp over the past few months and the wall is always about 60 degrees. I hope to use the wall for some radiant cooling. My racks will be along the black wall.

Thanks for your comments and question.

 

[Johnd]

Do you have need to do any temperature / humidity control, or are you fortunate enough to have conditions that don’t require it?

 

[RaginCajun]

Do you have need to do any temperature / humidity control, or are you fortunate enough to have conditions that don’t require it?

Luckily my basement is really dry, we live on the top of the hill so no drainage issues. I’m hoping with one exterior wall and three walls well insulated that will keep the room cool.

 

[Ajmassa]

I absolutely love reading along a wine room build. Great progress already. Keep those updates comin!
I notice you re-used an old rough door frame. Often it takes 2x the labor to salvage old material. Hope that went smooth.
And kudos to you on the garage opening. You did it proper with the cinder. I opted for wood on a recent similar job.
Good luck

 

[RaginCajun]

I absolutely love reading along a wine room build. Great progress already. Keep those updates comin!
I notice you re-used an old rough door frame. Often it takes 2x the labor to salvage old material. Hope that went smooth.
And kudos to you on the garage opening. You did it proper with the cinder. I opted for wood on a recent similar job.
Good luck

Thanks for the comments! We put a pool in the back where that garage door was, and that was a big project! I had a pro block that up.

Reusing the door wasn’t too bad, my basement had a half a$$ed room built by the previous owner with lots of good material that wasn’t built very well! I’m using some cedar tongue and groove but gonna use the back side of it. Removing the nails from that was tedious but my labor is free.

 

[RaginCajun]

Well my real job got in the way of progress yesterday and today but I still managed to get some stuff done. I didn’t buy enough insulation but got a chunk of that done.

I’ll be reusing some suspended ceiling from my supply of building materials, but I’m gonna paint the tiles and ribs black to give the room a cellar feel.

I’ve also, I mean my wife, has decided I should stain the concrete floor a mottled blue which I will happily do! I actually think it’s gonna look really great.

The base and top cabinets will be painted black and I’m gonna make base cabinets to fill in the rest which will also be black. All other wood will be stained and polyed. The counter top will be pennies glued down and covered with self leveling epoxy.

I have decided to move forward and finish the tongue and groove walls before staining the concrete. And will soon be building the door jamb and hanging the door.

My main unknown at this point is what type of shelving on the black wall. I need to store beer and wine so need vertical and horizontal bottle orientation. I’m leaning toward the x type but I really like the goat wire racks. The goat wire seems way easier and I’d have to build the x racks out of 1by material instead of finished plywood because I can’t get the sheets of plywood down the basement stairs. Decisions decisions.

I hope 2018 is going well for everyone so far!

 

[bkisel]

You da Man! I'm very impressed and a bit jealous of your work ethic and design and building skills.

 

[mainshipfred]

You're lucky to have such a great space to work with and I too am jealous. If I might make one recommendation, depending on the configuration of your pool outside the old garage door, you may want to consider installing a sleeve for a room AC unit before it gets too late. Not only will your insulated room keep the cool air from the wall under the garage in it will also keep the heat generated by the room in. You will be cooking your beer creating a heat gain and if you were to decide to put any refrigeration equipment in the room it will aslo produce heat. Also, you said you took readings on the wall at 60 degrees but I assume you are in Louisianna and that is a November/December reading. Just a thought, hope I'm not stepping out of line.

 

[RaginCajun]

You're lucky to have such a great space to work with and I too am jealous. If I might make one recommendation, depending on the configuration of your pool outside the old garage door, you may want to consider installing a sleeve for a room AC unit before it gets too late. Not only will your insulated room keep the cool air from the wall under the garage in it will also keep the heat generated by the room in. You will be cooking your beer creating a heat gain and if you were to decide to put any refrigeration equipment in the room it will aslo produce heat. Also, you said you took readings on the wall at 60 degrees but I assume you are in Louisianna and that is a November/December reading. Just a thought, hope I'm not stepping out of line.

Fred, thanks for the tips. I am a transplanted coonass now living in wild and wonderful West Virginia. The readings on the wall was throughout the summer and fall.

I plan on actually cooking my beer in the kitchen to avoid raising the temp in the room. I’ll probably have a small hot plate to heat up sparkalloid but that has not been decided yet. I plan on putting blankets in my carboys to keep fermentation temps up. I am keeping a backup plan on place to vent a portable air conditioner later if need be.

Thanks for your advice, it’s my first time and i appreciate any tips provided!

 

[mainshipfred]

Great project and as AJ said, keep us posted.

 

[RaginCajun]

Well I am obsessed! I played a little hookey from work this afternoon and got some work done. I finished the insulation which I am happy to be done with. I have a little spray foaming in some cracks but I’ll get to that later.

I started putting up the interior walls today. One pick shows what the tongue and groove siding looked like before I took it down, yucky orange stain! I removed the nails and flipped them over and voila! I ran out of boards and need to go pry more off the walls. I really like the natural blond color of the wood, it’ll look nice with the black, stained wood racks, and penny top counters.

I’ve decided to do a combo storage rack system with x racks, goat wire racks and regular shelves for the beer.

Oh, I realize that I’m installing the tongue and groove backwards, from top down. I’m doing that so I can hang my suspended ceiling tomorrow. My wife is painting the ceiling tiles and I want the spars in place so after they dry i can install them.

 

[stickman]

I painted ceiling tiles black for my theater room , and found out that getting the paint into the deep dimples required spraying from all angles. I diluted latex paint with distilled water until the spray pattern was fine enough to get into the dimples.

 

[ceeaton]

I plan on actually cooking my beer in the kitchen to avoid raising the temp in the room.

You are a very fortunate man to have a wife who will put up with brewing a beer inside. When my wife first moved in (before we were married) it was made clear to me that any brewing would be done outside in the garage...that was after the first kettle hop addition for bittering. Good luck with your almost finished project.

 

[RaginCajun]

You are a very fortunate man to have a wife who will put up with brewing a beer inside. When my wife first moved in (before we were married) it was made clear to me that any brewing would be done outside in the garage...that was after the first kettle hop addition for bittering. Good luck with your almost finished project.

Ha ha, my wife is the one who wants me to brew the beer. She hates the fermenting wine smell but stands over the beer brew pot huffing in smell of the brew.

 

[RaginCajun]

I painted ceiling tiles black for my theater room , and found out that getting the paint into the deep dimples required spraying from all angles. I diluted latex paint with distilled water until the spray pattern was fine enough to get into the dimples.

Thanks for the tip, I’ve already purchased water based so I’ll see how it goes. Fingers crossed!