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yep soon s i get my skeeter pee done i got bout 30 gallons fermenting now, hehe the second day i went to stir and had forgotten about foaming up, i made my biggest mess to date, like a hayseed i'd filled my container up to much, i flooded the wine room hallway and bathroom, and soaked some of the carpet in the edge of the living room, i got plenty of room to stir and foam up now,