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Pretty much fail - BUT I SAVED IT

I guess this is as good a place to put this disappointed rant as any. :a

As some know, I bought some blueberry puree off the site many, many months ago that unfortunately started to ferment on the way here. I put it in my fridge unknowing, and when I came back to is a couple weeks later, the milk jugs it was in were ballooned.

So I was forced to make wine, and added some good yeast to it, as well. Well, it has turned out to be my most expensive fruit-made wine and it is a fail. Quite a while back, I bought a vac pump and filter system from Wade, and I was forced to use it today for the very first time to run this murky muck through a 1-micron filter. (I do not want to chemically clear it. You are what you drink.)

It still is hazier than I like but it at least is much clearer. Unfortunately, there was some shipping damage to the pump fittings I did not see when I got it, so I cobbed it a bit and got it going. Then I had an air leak in the filter I never did get fixed so you have an idea what a frustrating day it has been.

Previously, over months and months I had racked this over a few times and even put it out for over a week in the cold, a sure-fire settler for me, but no dice. The lees are very very fine because of the wild yeast. I have never seen them so fine, so unwilling to settle out.

I had to back-flavor with blueberry wine base because the berry flavor was not prominent enough, etc.

So I figure I've got about $70-80 in this 6-gallon jug by now. Mostly what I get now is a bready taste due to the wild yeast. I added a bunch of sugar to pump the berry flavor up and try to make something out of it.

Don't get me wrong, it's drinkable and it will get you drunk, but I had initial hopes this puree would be far better than any blueberry I have ever made. I've done better with Wal-Mart blueberries.

So I'll let it sit another week and bottle it off. Looks like I get to drink all this one myself instead of giving it away as I planned. Glad this an extremely rare event for me. Never had this exact thing happen before.

Some days you step in it, some days you don't. Rant over. :D
 
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Funny you're writing this. I just tasted my blueberry port today - 18 months old and still not where I want it. That blueberry can be tough to work with, I guess.
 
I have made tons of blueberry. I have medaled with blueberry. Blueberry wine is my favorite wine.

Where this went wrong was when it was contaminated and started to ferment on the way here. I should have dumped it then, probably. I am always preaching about using good wine yeast and not just letting it wild ferment, but this one forced my hand.

There's no long aging with blueberry wine. Within 6 months, surely no longer than a year, it's about as good as it is going to get on its own without outside help, IMO. Best of luck, Jim.
 
No bentonite?

Blueberry is one of my favorites as well
 
I've never used bentonite in blueberry before. It's all turned out fine. But I was making it from fruit, not puree. I hardly ever use clearing agents in any wines I make.

I finally gave in and added Super Kleer. That's the third time in all these years I've ever used a clearing agent. It really doesn't look like it did much either, except make the wine so my wife cannot drink it. Whatever. Next step is into the bottle, whenever I get the time.

Ah well, I learned.
 
Hey, hey, let me give a little update on this one.

My blueberry wine is just OK in a bench test, has a strange taste high in the mouth near the glottis. I have added too much sugar to it now in efforts to bring out the flavor and get it to behave.

So I am right now drinking a test glass where I blended it with scuppernong. This is gonna work. Adds vinosity and power down low, removes the odd taste from the top. It is clearer, too.

Looks like 1/3 scuppernong wine and 2/3 blueberry ought to work.

It's amazing how something like this can work at the brain of a vintner. I have been mentally chewing around the edges of this vexing problem for a while. I might have something now. Yay.
 
That is unfortunate.

Did you dilute the puree at all or just let it go by itself? I bought a 55 gal drum of what is probably the same puree. Mine was aseptically sealed and was not fermenting. I used some of the puree in a 100 gal batch of dragons blood started in November. It is crystal clear now all by itself. It's turning out great.
 
I prepped the puree as I would have any must, even though it was actively fermenting already. I left out the k meta. Added water to volume directed by seller, added sugar to bring the SG up where it needed to be. I also added a wine yeast but the die had been cast as far as wild yeast flavor and lees.

Fortunately, today I bottled it. Post fermentation, I ended up using a half-gallon of blueberry wine mix from homewinery.com and then blending it as 60% of this blueberry and wine solution, 25% from a Thompson Grape oaked recipe of which I had a case and a half still around, and 15% scuppernong. All this greatly reduced the bready taste and made for a clear wine. I got 53 bottles yield after all this blending.

It's the most expensive wine I ever made, especially for what it is, but at least it is consumable now. I can serve this to friends without embarrassment.
 
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Looking at my bottles today to see if any are OK to bring to a party next week, and every single one of them has crud lying in it. Just very disappointing. This will all have to be consumed at home. I learned my lessons on this batch.



This was bulk aged since the end of July, run through a 1-micron whole house filter, Super-Kleered and allowed to sit for a week after that. From now on, I'll stick with fruit. Sorry for the downer thread. Grrrrrr!
 
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What if you were to use K-Meta in the very beginning when you found the wild yeast fermentation? Would that have been the proper thing to do? I don't mean to be an armchair quarterback...
 
It was too far along. What I should have done was dumped it, and saved myself money in the long run. Sigh...
 

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