Cellar Craft Syrah Concern

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K&GB

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On 9-3-08 I began the CC Sunset Ridge Vineyard Syrah. On 9-19, fermentation was complete. I racked, discarded the oak, stabilized with K-meta and K-sorbate, and degassed, but I witheld the Super Kleer. SG was .994 and the wine tasted fine. I took a look today and thought I saw a thin ring of fizz at the top of the carboy. (There was very little headspace) I removed the bung and airlock and saw what appeared to be an oily film on top. I sampled the wine. It tastes fine for such a young wine, but after removal of the sample, the newly exposed sides of the carboy (about an inch in the neck) were coated with a milky residue. I'm concerned about the oily film and this milky residue in the neck of the carboy. I've never seen this before. Any ideas?


Ken
 
I would rack to another clean vessel and add a little more k-meta just in case this is the beginning of a bacterial infection.Its probably just a little residue left on the carboy from last cleaning though.
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JW, I was just going to post that same statement. Seems I beat myself to it
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Thanks all. I appreciate the helpful responses. But I'm still concerned.


I was concerned about this kit from the beginning. First of all, although everything was present in the kit, it had obviously been opened. (No, I didn't get it from George. Lesson learned.) The plastic bag containing all the other small packets was open when I got it. Also, I've always had to use channel locks to get the cap off of the bag of juice in any kit I've made. But not this one. It came off easily by hand. Finally, the juice smelled oxidized when I poured it from the baginto the primary.


I've now made three CC grape pack kits, the Super tuscan, the Old Vines Zin, and now the Syrah. I didn't notice any oily spots floating on top or a milky residue with the first two kits. But then, I added the Super Kleer at stabilization, so that may be the difference. I store my carboys full of water, and give them a good rinse with K-meta solution and then clean water before use, so I'm fairly certain I didn't introduce anything into the wine that wasn't already there. But you never know. One last thought. The top of this carboy looks like it's coated with dust, but it's not. The "dust," which looks like a light sprinkling of white powder, is INSIDE the carboy. It looks like accumulations of tiny bubbles. And then there's that ring of fizzat the top of the winein the neck. Why would there be bubbles several days after I've stabilized?


Ido plan to rack it again today when I get off work. I'll rack onto another dose of K-meta, and add the Super Kleer this time.


Ken
 
I was finally able to rack this wineduring lunch today. The pics below show the milky reside I was concerned about.
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Not sure what that was, but it ran down the sides from the top as I siphoned the wine. I racked to a primary, added another 1/4 tsp dose of K-meta, and added the Super Kleer. Then I transferred it back into a clean 5-gal carboy with a 750 ml bottle left over.


When I got home from work tonight, the wine looked clear and dark, just like the other reds I have in carboys. No ring of fizz at the top and no sign of anything white accumulating. Maybe the Super Kleer was the variable that made this one different than the previous two CC wines.
 
K & GB, I was thinking of making one of the CC kits. How do you compare the CC kit with an MM kit?
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Thanks Wade. Still no idea what that was, but it's gone now.


UAV, Wish I could say, but none of my reds is drinkable yet. My first is red (MM Sangiovese) is approaching the 1-year old mark. It's rich and tastey but has bad bouquet. Interestingly, my CC Super Tuscan, a bit younger, has a very similar bouquet, so I don't attribute it to the brand. I've made a MM Reisling thatturned outfantastic, but I haven't made any CC whites. All I can say with certainty is that the CC kits with grape packs are more fun during fermentation and a bit more work. But I can't really comment on the finished product.


KenEdited by: K&GB
 
Just filtered and bottled this CC Syrah. After 6 weeks on French and American oak... Oh my gosh! It's soooo good.
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Enjoying a glass of it now...
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Ken I'm glad this turned out well for you. I have so say, Oily residue and all, I have been very happy with the CC kits.
BTW, I don't know what supplier you bought the kit from, but I know of at least one that opens every single kit to make sure all the necessary supplies are included and the juice bag is not leaking. It's just their procedure, kinda like George and his peanuts
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. Personally I sure wish I could get the same customer service from other retail stores as I get from the folks in this industry.
VC
 
Hey K&GB,






I just finished fermenting a red mountain cab and sure enough about 7 days later i have this film, i also did not clarify but what is the cause of this? I read all the posts but the link to the reason why does not seem to work? Can anyone chime in? if this is normal should i just leave it for the time being? or should i rack and add the clarafiers? Help!!!!!!
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CC kits have a history of this film and I believe they now have an enzyme pack included in the kits to eliminate the film. I have never had the problem so could not tell you how to proceed, but rest assured its not unusual and if you want to rack (and I would be tempted to do so) just rack carefully below the film.
VC
 
The grape pack has a high amount of lipids from the way they process the grapes. After a while, they separate and rise. It is harmless.
 
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