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I don't know... Do you have a walmart? You could probably find them there. I've seen milk crates in walmart too. Any department store that sells storage bins for anything proably would have them (K-mart, Target, Walmart, Woolworths, etc...). Kids going to college ususally use them for transport and storage here in the States.





The plastic bins are pretty sturdy. The big ones should be on the floor, the smaller ones (18 gallon) could be stacked on each other - at the most 2, though. Otherwise, I think the weight would be too much for the bottom lid. They are so heavy, though, that you almost never move them.


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MedPretzel said:
Do you have a walmart? (K-mart, Target, Walmart, Woolworths, etc...). Kids going to college ususally use them for transport and storage here in the States.


The plastic bins are pretty sturdy. The big ones should be on the floor, the smaller ones (18 gallon) could be stacked on each other - at the most 2, though. Otherwise, I think the weight would be too much for the bottom lid. They are so heavy, though, that you almost never move them.


Of the places you listed we have only Walmart, so I will take a look there. I can see why the college kids used them for transport and storage. I was wondering about plastic bins and their weight with filled bottles....


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Well, I read that a 5 gallon carboy weighs roughly 50 pounds (22 kg). So, I'm assuming that since 30 bottles goes in there, the weight would be about 25 kg, depending on how many bottles (what size, kind etc) you have in there.





Just a guestimate, though. They seem sturdy enough to stack 2 on top of one another.





What other Walmart-type stores do you have? Whichever you have, look there. I've seen similar ones in various dollar stores too.
 
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Milk Crates...I googled plastic crates, colapsible crates in hopes to find some  at a local store in Edmonton, Alberta Canada.  Has anyone in my neck of the world seen them?  If so where?  Cost?


I have one old milk crate...my parents got "no idea where".  I use it for hawling my filled bottles from one location to the next.  I like the size (able to handle it easily), strength (doesn't break, or bend) and weight (light weight even with filled bottles in it).  Thus my determination to find a couple more of these milk crates.


Martina...are the plastic binds you use sturdy?  Is there an equivlent business  (Target) in western Canada that sells similar plastic bins?


JC


 


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Plastic milk crates are heavier than the plastic storage crates from WalMart. Milk Crates you will see in piles behind WalMart stores, they get deliveries in them...not for sale...I got 10 at a garage sale this summer...asked no questions.
Home improvement stores like Home Depot and Menards[USA] have those plastic storage cubes, but they are a bit more flimsy. With the weight of the bottles the sides kind of bow outward, but if you place them close to each other they will be fine.
The straight sided bottles [Claret/Bordeaux] stack best in cubes, the slope sided [Burgundy] bottles tend to slide out. When you stack your cubes put a little strip of wood under the front of the cube, slopes the bottles backward a bit and you are sure they won't slip out.
Up in Canada try a store like Canadian Tire...I use to love those stores, they were in Ontario when I lived there. I was raised near Edmonton, but that was a long time ago and don't recall names of the chain-stores that sold Home Improvement items.
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Northern Winos said:
Up in Canada try a store like Canadian Tire...I use to love those stores, they were in Ontario when I lived there. I was raised near Edmonton, but that was a long time ago and don't recall names of the chain-stores that sold Home Improvement items.
Good Luck in your ventures.


Googled Canadian Tire... they have the colapseable plastic crates ...will check them out....thanks..


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Googled Canadian Tire... they have the collapsible plastic crates ...will check them out....thanks..


JC
I looked at the Canadian Tire OnLine Site, after you said Collapsible Crate...I wondered about it....those might be too flimsy. I see they carry the Rubber-maid totes with lids like Med Pretzel [Martina]uses for storage. Those WalMart would also carry. The crates that stores sell are like those in this photo....You can see the weight of the bottles on the side of the crate is bowing the side inward. I think if you put the crates close together and kept the crates all full they would support each other. They are not near as strong as the milk crates that are used for deliveries [like the one in the right of the photo]. If you know anyone at a food store or restaurant they may be able to slip you a few. Also you can see I put some scraps of wood under the front of the crate, it kind of slopes the bottles back a bit, less worry about them slipping out. Good luck in your search....
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Northern Winos said:
Also you can see I put some scraps of wood under the front of the crate, it kind of slopes the bottles back a it, less worry about them slipping out.





Ingenious! You see? it's these small things that help out so much.





Thanks!
 
Northern Winos... Kind of difficult to tell from the Can Tire web site as to just how thick the collapsible crates are. I wasn't looking for collapsible...I actually dislike the fact that they do collapse, I was thinking those might be courting disaster.


Like the look of your Walmart crates, even tho you state they are thinner than the milk crates, at least those are designed to remain intact. I did notice that Can Tire had bins similiar to Martinas come the weekend might get around to checking the out.


I agree with martina...your simple wood wedges works wonderfully.


JC
 
I use these crates from Walmart, they are $3 each and hold 12 bottles each standing up or laying down.



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For anyone interested in using standard 4-gallon milk crates (I picked
up 12 for no cost last month), here are two photos of how I've used
them in my unheated crawl space. It is insulated from the floor above,
with plastic sheeting over the dirt floor, and the space stays between
45-55 degrees with humidity above 70%. It's my wine cell'ah!



Each crate can hold 14-15 bottles, with no flexing or bending. Looks like I need to make a lot more wine!!
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Looks like AAASTINKEY shops inside Walmart & Bilbo-in-Maine shops behind Walmart ROFLMAO. Good job guys i am going to get me some milk crates to


Harry in Alvin Tx


P.S. I am about 10 minutes from Walmart LOL
 
Good deal!!! Saw on another Forum lately that the guy wires them together and said not to go more than 3 high. Think I would secure the whole lot to a wall or post on the back or sides, and maybe tilt them backward a tad, just to be sure that the bottles don't shift. Good job. Fun for free!!!
 
Here are some plans for a pretty simple 72 bottle wine rack. I drew these up today and they are not perfect, if you have a little "handy man" in you you will not have a problem. This is not something that you would want in a tasting room, it uses plywood not all grade A lumber but, could be easily modified to use good lumber. I will post a picture in a few days when I finish mine, I am just waiting to get a 3" hole saw, it is a hot item right now, all the stores are out...


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Here is the wine rack I made for storing my empties in the garage. Turned out pretty good considering the small amount of time that I spent on it...


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Thanks, this is just for empties. I am going to get some quality wood and build a nice one for in the house...
 
Steve said:
I am going to get some quality wood and build a nice one for in the house...


You made this?


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A nice one for the house?


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(just kidding, as always!)





Good for you, they look great!
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