Carlos Port

[gaudet]

I am enlisting the knowledge of all here who have made port wines from scratch. I have not been able to find many recipes that might fit the bill. Any input is appreciated.

 

[Wade E]

What abv are you going to be looking for and what is the approx ofthe juice you have now?

 

[Tom]

Wade,

Nice link. I was raised in Stamford CT. You anyware near Stamford?

 

[Waldo]

Having pondered your question for some time now gaudet I just don't believe that you could make a good Port from Muscadines. A Port needs a good base that will handle the high abv of a Port and i just don't believe Muscadines will do that. My best ever, in my opinion was a Black Currant based.

 

[gaudet]

Wade:
I probably have about 3-4 gallons worth of juice that could be obtained from my remaining muscadines. I could shoot for 16% maybe a little higher.

Waldo:
By base, are you talking about the base flavor? Not sure I understand. Please expound on it.

Maybe I could make something high ABV and sweet dessert like. Almost like the orange blossom muscat kit.

 

[Waldo]

For me, base=main juice used for my Port in which case it was Black Currant with Elderberry, Rasberry and Blackberry added for complexity. I could be wrong but I just don't believe Muscadine would be able to hold up to that high an alcohol content and still taste like Muscadine

 

[gaudet]

Now I understand what you meant. I'll have to consider if I want to make it, or hold off until I get more muscadine grapes of a different variety to combine them

 

[Waldo]

Try a little experiment gaudet. Get you a half pint of Everclearclearand fortify a gallon of the carlos you have made up and see how it handles the extra alcohol. I would add only about 1/4 the bottle of Everclear initially though

 

[gaudet]

So you are saying to add 2 oz of everclear initially to see how it hold its flavor in the presence of higher ABV. I can try that.

 

[Waldo]

Well hush my mouth...by golly they do make a Port from Muscadines
I have got to get a bottle of this..somehow !!
http://www.snooth.com/wine/san-sebastian-port-noble-muscadine-nv/

 

[vcasey]

Here is San Sebastian's web site. They are located in St. Augustine, Fl. We keep trying to get over there but have not made it yet.

http://www.sansebastianwinery.com/cart/display.php?pid=11209&detail=true&hits_seen=

VPC

 

[Wade E]

Love those Port bottles there! They must cost a pretty penny!

 

[vcasey]

They have the port priced @ $20. Not to bad and if we ever get over there I'll pick up a bottle or two. The winery close to has a strawberry port in a blue triangular bottle, but I don't like the port. Neither would fit very well on my wine rack but the San Sebastian ones do look very nice.
VPC

 

[Waldo]

Having pondered your question for some time now gaudet I just don't believe that you could make a good Port from Muscadines. A Port needs a good base that will handle the high abv of a Port and i just don't believe Muscadines will do that.

Bwahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

And I will be starting another batch today. Will start a new thread on it later but I just had to post on this one first

 

[Wade E]

Bring it on my man!

 

[jeepbabe]

vcasey,
Our friend went to Florida recently and brought us back a bottle of port from San Sebastian and it was very good. He also brought us a cream sherry as well which I haven't tried. It looks like a nice winery to visit if you are close.

 

[vcasey]

Congratulations Waldo. That port looks fantastic with a medal.

jeepbabe we still haven't made it over there but have made up for by making more visits to wineries located closer to us

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[gaudet]

very nice indeed Congrats Waldo

 

[ibglowin]

Another example of your superb wine making skills and highly calibrated palette!

Congrats Waldo!

 

[Runningwolf]

Way to go Waldo, you're awesome!