Champlain Valley - Grapemans' vineyard - Planting to small winery

[grapeman]

It is supposed to bear even after -33 deg F. What could also prevent it from bearing well is if it hadn't been pruned and got very bushy. The buds need good light exposure to turn vegetative buds to fruiting buds. If you didn't prune last year and light couldn't get in well, you wouldn't get much fruit this year. That's one of the biggest reasons we need to be hard on the vines and prune them back a lot every year. Some of the vines that lean more towards the wild vine parent will produce a good crop even if left unpruned. Frontenac is very vigorous and seems to bear better if pruned back quite a lot every year.

 

[NorthernWinos]

I'll try to remember that in the spring...perhaps refresh my memory.


The vines I have that are crossed with Wild Montana grapes produce so much vegetation and fruit...really amazing plants...very rewarding.


The most vegetative vine I have is King of the North..It is a cross between Concord and Rapina [what ever that is]....It is awesome how much this plant grew last summer...I hesitate to plant any more as they might take over the rows.


Meanwhile...outside it is snowing and blowing like crazy, fairly warm tho...this storm is suppose to be short lived....Strange how we are thinking about grape vines on an evening like this, meanwhile I browse my seed and plant catalogs....think I'll go downstairs and adore my little Black Currant cuttings and stoke the fire....First real almost-winter night of the year.Edited by: Northern Winos

 

[grapeman]

The vines I have that are crossed with Wild Montana grapes produce so much vegetation and fruit...really amazing plants...very rewarding.


The most vegetative vine I have is King of the North..It is a cross between Concord and Rapina [what ever that is]....It is awesome how much this plant grew last summer...I hesitate to plant any more as they might take over the rows.

They are a cross between Concord and Riparia- which is another name for native wild grapes from the midwest regions- very cold hard and just what I'm talking about. They are very vigorous and tend to overproduce, but since they are early they ripen anyway.

 

[grapeman]

I got out this AM and got a few pictures of the vines trained to VSP this last year to show how they did. You can see the skeleton with the leaves off. Most of them did pretty well and will be pruned in the spring back to the cordons and the few extra shoots pruned out from the main ones. My automatic pruners have showed up in force now that hunting season has ended. I'm letting them eat a few apple trees worth of apples I saved for them. They are real late apples and keep well, so I left them on a few trees to give them something to eat besides my vines.




Chardonel - Two Years Growth on all these vines below

Leon Millot

Enterprise Apple

Just a few visitors were here.................

Edited by: appleman

 

[swillologist]

Appleman did prune them back some last spring? I need someone to post some up close pictures of which buds you leave and which ones you remove. In other words I need a lesson on pruning.I have been pruning mine but I'm not sure I am doing it right. I didn't get many grapes last year. I want to make sure it was the weather and not my pruning.

 

[grapeman]

These vines had been pruned back almost to the ground last spring. They had been one year old and weren't very hardened when it froze, so the buds had died back a lot. Once they started to grow vigorously they were trained to the fruiting wire to start to establish the cordons. The upright shoots were trained up through the wires. When I prune in the spring, they will be clipped off almost to the wire giving a T shape to the vine. The buds grow back from that and fruit off the first couple nodes of the new growth. As spring arrives next year I will post more pictures of what the vines look like at that time. I have several types of pruning and training going on, so you can choose what suits you and your varieties.


I would suspect it was the Easter freeze you experienced that made for a light harvest this last year.




Check this picture. The row on the left is the Chardonel and the others are the Leon Millot shown from a different angle. If you look closely on the first couple vines you can see some of the dead cane before I clipped them off after seeing no growth. This picture is from this spring-check the date. What you see above is all new growth and training from this spring and summer!

Edited by: appleman

 

[swillologist]

Thanks appleman! I am hoping you are right about the freeze. That is mysuspicion too. Most of our fruit didn't bear very well this year. But my pruning is just a guess. I have no idea what I am supposed to be doing. Any help would be appreciated.

 

[bilbo-in-maine]

Very nice Rich! I see a lot of double trunks. Have you found them to beneficial? Have you lost a trunk yet?

 

[NorthernWinos]

Very nice Appleman...You are certainly doing a great job on pruning.


One of the only things I like about winter is seeing the 'bones' of the vines and trees....the silhouettes of vines and trees against the snow is quite pretty.

 

[grapeman]

I do like the insurance of the double trunk. If one gets hit, just let another bud develop as a replacement if no viable shoot is already there. I haven't lost any yet, but it doesn't hurt to have a little extra insurance in our harsh climates. It looks like this winter will be a true test of the hardiness. How is you late autumn going there in Maine?

 

[NorthernWinos]

Don't know about your temps...but ours are brutal....



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This is only December 7th...wonder what January will bring....Then wonder what vines will bare fruit next year....At least we have snow cover to protect the roots....Noting but hardy vines can make it up here on 'de-tundra'..... Edited by: Northern Winos

 

[grapeman]

I like our forecast better NW, not quite so cold.



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[JWMINNESOTA]

Balmy Appleman!

 

[jobe05]

I like ours better: Sorry to you folks up north.................

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Dec 8</td>
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Dec 9</td>
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Dec 10</td>
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Dec 11</td>
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Dec 12</td>
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Dec 14</td>
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Dec 15</td>
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60%
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Dec 16</td>
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60%
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Dec 17</td>
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[NorthernWinos]

I vote for Jobe's for a weekend party.

 

[jobe05]

Bummer......................

I just bottled my Strawberry Port, racked the scupernnong and blackberry and sweetened the blackberry wine.......... then cleaned everything up........

Should have waited for ya'll to show up!

Bring it on, we have plenty of food and wine!

 

[Wade E]

Well, now that everything is all cleaned up we'll be on our way Jobe!

 

[grapeman]

You cheated Jobe and took the forecast from early September! Party!Party! Party!


Everybody take a trip to Jobe's place!

 

[grapeman]

I spent a good deal of the day today moving the white wines out in the garage to cold stabilize them. The temperature out there is cose to 32 deg F so two weeks out there should do it. I needed to rack a few more of them off the lees that had settled out. The cold stabilization will help to precipitate out excess acids as crystals in the bottom. After they have precipitated the crystals I will need to rack off them while still cold. It helps the wine to be more stable and prevents crystals and hazes when the wine is cooled later before serving.


I needed to replace the water and K-meta solution in the airlocks with some anti-freeze. I chose vodka since it doesn't freeze easily and is harmless if some backs up into the carboy of wine. The wines continue to improve the older they get. All of them have a lot of fruitiness to them- thanks to using Cotes Des Blanc yeast and the type of grapes. They are still a bit tart, but the cold stailization should help. I plan on sweetening them just a bit to accentuate the fruitiness and they should resemble a good Reisling when done. They all have subtle differences but all are quite good. Even the Chardonel is coming around nicely, but has a bit of a haze to it. If it doesn't clear with the cold treatment, I will probably use Super Kleer on it.


I took pictures today of them all lined up and will post them tomorrow.


I also need to rack a few more carboys of reds off oak. I was waiting until MLF slowed down on these last few, but don't want to leave them on the oak much longer.

 

[grapeman]

Here are the pictures of the whites I moved yesterday. Some of them I racked after the picture was taken. They are already dropping solids and got hazy from the cold. It was 14 outside this AM, running right at 33-34 deg at the carboys. The weather looks favorable this week.

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