Well just ordered then beginners equipment package with the Peach Chardonnay wine, wanted something the wife would like. Can't wait to get it. But in the mean time I went to the local brew store and bought some stuff to make a gallon of Apple cider wine so I'm going to try to get that started this morning. One question I didn't by any tannins, can I just use raisins and if so how many? Oh and I didn't buy a hydrometer oops. I should still be able to start it shouldn't I? Well any tips would be great.