Interesting problem

[dralarms]

I have a white grape peach that finished, I sorbated, added k-meta, back sweetened , waited about a week with no action and super kleered. This is where the problem starts.

I put the first dose in and the wine got real clear, great. 2 hers later I put the second half in and the wine drops a bunch of stuff but gets cloudy again. So I figure its peticin haze so I rack it off and add petic enzyme. No effect.

Let it sit a week, and nothing else drops out. So I try super kleer again and behold my wine is clear again. Should have stopped but I added the second have again and it clouds right up.

I'm not talking about a lot, but you can tell it's not clear.

So my question is this. Can I add just the first half, let it clear, rack it off and forget it or is that going to screw with my wine?

 

[Brew and Wine Supply]

did you degass?

 

[dralarms]

Yes I did.

 

[Julie]

I think I would let it sit for a couple of weeks and see what happens. I think it will clear.

 

[oldwhiskers]

Definitely an interesting problem, I generally use Sparkolloid but I still like to learn for future reference.

 

[dralarms]

I think I would let it sit for a couple of weeks and see what happens. I think it will clear.

True, but not what I asked. I'm trying to make sure I don't HAVE to use the second half.

Definitely an interesting problem, I generally use Sparkolloid but I still like to learn for future reference.

Like I tell my distributor, if anyone can find something screwy
its me.

 

[novalou]

So my question is this. Can I add just the first half, let it clear, rack it off and forget it or is that going to screw with my wine?

The two packets you have have different charges. One will attract the negative particles and the other positive particles. If one does the job and the wine is clear, probably ok doing without the other.

 

[dralarms]

The two packets you have have different charges. One will attract the negative particles and the other positive particles. If one does the job and the wine is clear, probably ok doing without the other.

Thanks, I thought so. Its perfectly clear now so I'm not adding the second half.

 

[Julie]

True, but not what I asked. I'm trying to make sure I don't HAVE to use the second half.

I understood what you asked, and what I was trying to tell you is slow down. You added two batches of superklear in a week's time, you should have have waited a month before adding the second. What is your rush? How old is this wine that you need to have it clear so quickly? So you add the first part of a third batch of superklear and it clears, you bottle and all of a sudden the wine just clouds up in the bottle, now what? Sorry but you are rushing, if only one part of the superklear is working, then you need to sit back and wait it out, definitely longer than a week. I would be leaving that wine sit for a couple of months to see what happens and if it is still cloudy then I would try to fine out what is causing the cloudiness.

 

[dralarms]

I understood what you asked, and what I was trying to tell you is slow down. You added two batches of superklear in a week's time, you should have have waited a month before adding the second. What is your rush? How old is this wine that you need to have it clear so quickly? So you add the first part of a third batch of superklear and it clears, you bottle and all of a sudden the wine just clouds up in the bottle, now what? Sorry but you are rushing, if only one part of the superklear is working, then you need to sit back and wait it out, definitely longer than a week. I would be leaving that wine sit for a couple of months to see what happens and if it is still cloudy then I would try to fine out what is causing the cloudiness.

I understand that and appreciate the help, I was just trying to figure out what was going on since I've never had a problem with super kleer before. The wine is totally degassed and clear, now.

I'm thinking about switching to sparkiloid, simply because of the shell fish thing.

Its not that I'm in a hurry to bottle, I am just confused over the whole cloudy thing. Unless I messed up and didn't put the 2nd half in correctly. Ive done that before.

 

[Julie]

I understand that and appreciate the help, I was just trying to figure out what was going on since I've never had a problem with super kleer before. The wine is totally degassed and clear, now.

I'm thinking about switching to sparkiloid, simply because of the shell fish thing.

Its not that I'm in a hurry to bottle, I am just confused over the whole cloudy thing. Unless I messed up and didn't put the 2nd half in correctly. Ive done that before.

Thank you for understanding, I didn't want you to think I was being pushy but you have to know, Tom has drummed into my head about patience and I now have nightmares if patience isn't follow :<

I do believeyou problem has something to do with positive/negative charge in your wine.

 

[SBWs]

I've posted this LINK before on fining agents, but it also talks about protein haze which sounds like what you are describing.

I did a wine kit recently and the directions had me add D1 then D2 than another D1. I thought it was funny but it said do not reverse the order.

Don't see why you would have to add D2, but I'm with Julie, give it some time something else may be going on here.

 

[dralarms]

Thanks for the link. But its perfectly clear.