Whats your threshold for spraying for these buggers? After handpicking them for a week i got out the pyrethrin as they were swarming my elderberry bushes and too a lesser degree my vines, couldn't take it anymore. I find it odd that after spraying i dont even see them flying around, it's almost as tho the insecticide changes how the plants look or smell so the bugs dont even come near. the elderberry flowers really attracted them, now none.