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Now that is a creative way to stir the wine with the wire-just don't turn it real fast. It's morning now so you probably should remove the wire. The reaction takes place pretty quickly so there is no need to keep it in there a long time. I hope it helped the smell a bit. Let us know.


Did you read George's February Newsletter. He talked about proper racking times with Mosti products to help insure off-odors don't take place.
 
I removed the wire this morning and it's still brite in color. I'll check free SO2 tonight. So whaddaya think? Should the smell be affected immediately? I plan to draw a sample and check it again tonight.


Yes, I got the newsletter, and I plan to include yeast nutirent in all future batches if not already included.


I've been discussing this issue with George via email, and my next post will be an excerpt form an email I sent him last night.
 
Below is an excerpt from an email I sent to George last night. I've begun to associate the "barbeque" smell with oak.




I fermented the cab and let it sit for about ten days after the bubbles stopped before racking. After racking I degassed it and put in some K-meta. Then I put in a bag of medium toast French oak. About a week later, after consulting the discussion forum about clarifying red wines, I added Super Kleer. When I racked a week later, the wine had the same strong smell that the Sangiovese has now, the woody, burnt, barbeque smell. So maybe that’s just oak. I have no frame of reference, so I don’t know. Anyway, I racked the cab off the oak, and that smell has been slowly diminishing ever since. However, it has been replaced by the slight pond water smell.


Now back to the Sangiovese. During secondary fermentation, I added a bag of medium toast French oak cubes. Then after fermentation, I racked the wine off the oak and moved it outside where it was cool. After about ten days I began to get nervous because the clarifiers weren’t working. I also noticed that the wine smelled exactly like the cab had before, burnt, woody barbeque. I moved the wine back indoors and racked it again just prior to coming to TX for New Years. About two weeks later, I added some Super Kleer that I’d picked up at your store. At that time the sangiovese still had that smell, but I noticed that it had diminished a little, and even more in the cab. Since I’d only given the Sangiovese about a week on the oak previously, I decided to add a fresh bag. It’s been oaking now for about two weeks, and the barbeque smell is as strong as ever. So I think it’s the oak.



As I mentioned in my last post, I went ahead with the copper wire experiment in the cab to see if it would change the stale, pond-water odor. I'll sample it again tonight and post the results.
 
So I drew another sample of the cab this morning and let it sit for about 15 min. Then I asked Gina to sniff it. She says the stagnant water smell ismuch lessnoticeable. (I actually got her to taste it this time!)
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Gina has a much more discerning palate than I do, so I often rely on her to tell me what wine tastes like...lol.
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She actually thought it was pretty good. She noted some fruit on the noseand a taste of blackberry and plum with oak on the finish.


Anyway, I'm not sure if the copper wire had any effect on the smell, but it definitely had an effect of the free SO2. On 13 JanI noted 16 ppm free SO2 with the Accuvine ampoule and a PH of 3.77 witha digital meter. At that time (less than a month ago) I added 1/4 tsp of K-meta expecting to bring the free SO2 up to around 50 ppm. When I tested it again today, it was back down around the 16 ppm range. So I added another 1/4 tsp of K-meta and stirred with my drill. Because the Accuvine test kits are so expensive, I didn't do a second test after I added the K-meta on either occasion, but I think with a 1/4 tsp addition, the free SO2 should be back up to an effective level.


I'm going to leave both the cab and the sangiovese alonefor another month or so. Hopefully by then the oak will have subsided a bit in the sangiovese, and I can get a good sense of how it tastes. And hopefully, the cab will smell more like it should.
 
This past weekend Gina and I bottled the cab and the sangiovese. We tasted them both and felt both were missing something. Then I poured the glass of sangiovese into the glass of cab and gave it a swirl. The result was really good. So we blended most of it 50/50. Kept back four bottles each unblended for comparison later.
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Now begins my trial of patience....
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We blended the Sangiovese with a Cabernet Sauvignon at bottling and eventually called the blend Romance Red. These being my first two red wines, I was very concerned about thepost-fermentation smell and taste, especially after oaking them. I tried a bottle periodically, and was never very impressed. In fact, I was all but certain that my first effort with reds was a failure.
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Well, it took a year, but my concerns have finally been laid to rest. This wine has developed into something very good.
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I always struggle with expressing how a wine tastes, so forgive me for my lack of eloquence. But here goes. It's dark and viscous, has wonderful smells of cherries and other berry-like fruits, with just a hint of oak and tannin. Still has a slight edge initially that fades to a smooth finish. My kids really like it, and that means the world tome.
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Some interesting observations- First, my experience with oaking this wine really scared me. After only three weeks with medium toast French oak cubes, both of these wines smelled and tasted terrible.
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Now, however, I wish I had left the oak in much longer. There's a hint of it left in the flavor and bouquet, but not enough in my opinion. Second, I put ten bottles of this wine in my wine fridge where it aged at a constant 57*. The remaining bottles aged on a wine rack in my bedroom closet with temps ranging from 70* to 80+*. Now I've read that storing wine at room temps causes it to age faster, but the reality of this is really surprising. While the bottlesI stored at room temp areready to drink now, the ones in my wine cooler are not.
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I'm not advocating storing wine at higher temps to make it age faster. It's just an observation.
 
Ken, it is true about the aging effect, the only downside to that is that those bottles will not stand the test of time there. The great thing is that you can jump forward into time and have a great bottle now!
 
K&GB said:
Second, I put ten bottles of this wine in my wine fridge where it aged at a constant 57*. The remaining bottles aged on a wine rack in my bedroom closet with temps ranging from 70* to 80+*. Now I've read that storing wine at room temps causes it to age faster, but the reality of this is really surprising. While the bottlesI stored at room temp areready to drink now, the ones in my wine cooler are not.
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I'm not advocating storing wine at higher temps to make it age faster. It's just an observation.


As a sidebar to this note, a 2007 WE Argentine Malbec kit was tasted at a blind wine-tasting event at my home in the middle of December. The bottle I opened had been stored in my EuroCave since it was bottled in Feb of 2008 and when opened, it tasted almost exactly like the same wine aged in my basement (63-68F) did three to four months prior. Like K&GB's experience quoted above, it was my first direct 'scientific' comparison of the effect that aging at different temperatures have on wine.


- Jim
 

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