Flem, I did my Barolo in my 6 gal. fermenter which probably holds 7 gals to the brim. I used both the raisins & grape pack. Just did the first rack tonight, according to instructions, [4 days SG 1.042], into a 6 gallon carboy. Couldn't siphon like they say, this kit is way too thick, so I put a straining bag in an empty 6 gal. bucket & poured the must from the primary into the straining bag. Then racked off that bucket into the carboy, & squeezed the heck out of the raisins & grapes in the bag. Having that extra bucket was a blessing. FYI the starting SG was very high, 1.116, with NOTHING added. Roy