dking193
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Murphy’s wine after Murphy’s Law (Anything that can go wrong will go wrong).
The plan: My Vineyard is young and I will not get grapes next year but the year after should be somewhat productive. I went ahead and picked up a couple of 100L variable capacity tanks and decided to practice this year and next with large batches (26gal) of wine so that when my grapes come in I don't make mistakes and waste 3 years of hard work putting in the vineyard.
Plan A: Pick 400- 500lbs of Norton grapes at a local vineyard. Norton is not what I’m growing, but it was close by, 10miles away. Met the owners and walked the vineyard weeks ago. Made a deal on the grapes and waited for brix to get to 24. Well it never got over 21, we did have a lot of rain and when the day came to pick, I was disappointed in the quality of the grapes. Almost every bunch had 10-15% of the grapes that were dried out (not raisins) or starting to rot/ferment and I assumed I needed to pick the bad ones out of the bunches. First time to ever pick grapes so I didn't know how bad the grapes can be and still make wine, but the dried ones had bugs, flies, spiders, you name it living in there. I know insects are normal, but we did have some excessive critters. Needless to say this really added a lot of time to picking, and cleaning. I eventually gave up after only 60lbs of grapes were picked as I had shot about 4 hours picking out the bad grapes.
Question 1: Is it okay to pick, crush and ferment with all the bad grapes in there or should I have picked out the rotten ones like I did?
Question 2: If #1 is yes, then I assume you just double the Potassium Metabisulphite to kill all the critters and compensate for bad grapes?
Plan B: It was starting to get late in the harvest day, so I decided to pick Black Beauty and Nobel Muscadines in the afternoon, as I’ve made wine from these as well and have some of those vines growing. Picked about 40lbs of those.
I got back home and pulled out my crusher and just decided to crush all together. So 60lbs of Norton grapes, and 40lbs of Muscadine mixed together and put in primary. I felt I would not have enough juice, I wanted 7 gal minimal for toping off with, so I decided to also add 1 gal of welches grape juice I had on hand. Maybe I should call this Potpourri Wine? Brix was around 17 after all of this and got it up to 22-23 with sugar, TA was good, PH good and kicked off fermentation the next day.
Great fermentation kicked off, punched down and tasted each day. At the end of three days, last night, I tasted and knew it was time to get off skins and seeds. Starting to get some stringency. Of course Murphy was still at play. I hadn’t planned to rack and press in three days so I got started late. Ended at 2:30am after clean up with a 6 gal and 1 gal carboys. NOTE: When moving skins and juice around put down plastic. That's a story all by its self!
I was pleased with the taste and who knows this might turn out okay but big divergence from original plans and quantities. Any help on questions above so I know next year. Anyone else got a murphy story? I'll post on how it turns out.
The plan: My Vineyard is young and I will not get grapes next year but the year after should be somewhat productive. I went ahead and picked up a couple of 100L variable capacity tanks and decided to practice this year and next with large batches (26gal) of wine so that when my grapes come in I don't make mistakes and waste 3 years of hard work putting in the vineyard.
Plan A: Pick 400- 500lbs of Norton grapes at a local vineyard. Norton is not what I’m growing, but it was close by, 10miles away. Met the owners and walked the vineyard weeks ago. Made a deal on the grapes and waited for brix to get to 24. Well it never got over 21, we did have a lot of rain and when the day came to pick, I was disappointed in the quality of the grapes. Almost every bunch had 10-15% of the grapes that were dried out (not raisins) or starting to rot/ferment and I assumed I needed to pick the bad ones out of the bunches. First time to ever pick grapes so I didn't know how bad the grapes can be and still make wine, but the dried ones had bugs, flies, spiders, you name it living in there. I know insects are normal, but we did have some excessive critters. Needless to say this really added a lot of time to picking, and cleaning. I eventually gave up after only 60lbs of grapes were picked as I had shot about 4 hours picking out the bad grapes.
Question 1: Is it okay to pick, crush and ferment with all the bad grapes in there or should I have picked out the rotten ones like I did?
Question 2: If #1 is yes, then I assume you just double the Potassium Metabisulphite to kill all the critters and compensate for bad grapes?
Plan B: It was starting to get late in the harvest day, so I decided to pick Black Beauty and Nobel Muscadines in the afternoon, as I’ve made wine from these as well and have some of those vines growing. Picked about 40lbs of those.
I got back home and pulled out my crusher and just decided to crush all together. So 60lbs of Norton grapes, and 40lbs of Muscadine mixed together and put in primary. I felt I would not have enough juice, I wanted 7 gal minimal for toping off with, so I decided to also add 1 gal of welches grape juice I had on hand. Maybe I should call this Potpourri Wine? Brix was around 17 after all of this and got it up to 22-23 with sugar, TA was good, PH good and kicked off fermentation the next day.
Great fermentation kicked off, punched down and tasted each day. At the end of three days, last night, I tasted and knew it was time to get off skins and seeds. Starting to get some stringency. Of course Murphy was still at play. I hadn’t planned to rack and press in three days so I got started late. Ended at 2:30am after clean up with a 6 gal and 1 gal carboys. NOTE: When moving skins and juice around put down plastic. That's a story all by its self!
I was pleased with the taste and who knows this might turn out okay but big divergence from original plans and quantities. Any help on questions above so I know next year. Anyone else got a murphy story? I'll post on how it turns out.