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By chance, and I know it's early, have you had a sample to compare the two yet.
VC
 
Now VC, you know its wayyy to early to sample...but...some did splash up into my mouth
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, and surprisingly to me, batch #2 I would rate a bit better than #1 at this time. I expected #1 to be the score, after the research pointed me in that direction on the yeast. Time will tell in the end, but thats whywe do the little experiments. Both do show some real promise, every bit as good as the last Grigio I made a couple years ago at its early stage. Aromas are different on both, yet both are very pleasing. Mouth feel wasn't the hot , just fermented taste one would expect, I wonder if the opti-white helped in that regard. Looking forward to the six month mark to do the first real judging ofthese two and the blend of both I plan on.
 
I have not used the white labs yeast yet, but the 58w3 added a nice smokey aroma to a Carmel Mead I made early this year. Granted I used dark toasted oak but this yeast really enhanced the mead.
VC
 
JW,
Thanks for sharing this experiment! Good info for us beginners.
When you say "polished them up" what did you do?
Jack
 
Occasionally the topic of "topping up" is discussed here. Thought for those that maybe don't know, or have never tried it Id show what I do. Now most kits you can top up with water, they allow for that, I have. And some tell you use a "like" wine, it works too, Ive done that. But, if you get to the point I have, where you want the wine you drink to be the wine you made, try marbles. Glass, preferably not made in China with unknown ingredients, and unpainted!
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They are easily cleaned and sanitized, inexpensive, and last for a long time...unless the kid next door wins them all from you! And the best part, The wine you drink, Is the wine you made!
 
Like that idea a lot but didn't have any marbles and didn't like the idea of watering down my wine.

Do you have a good source for acceptable marbles?
 
A caution on marbles, I used them one time and was concerned the marbles potentially were going to break the carboy banging around when either carefully going in or taking out. I ended up angling the carboy almost on its side to get them in. You could test the marbles with water in a carboy before committing to the wine to get the same effect. Carboy's have thick glass on the top and bottom but the glass gets very thin 1/8" on the vertical sides.

My concern is heightened since I have broken a wine filled full carboy once by lightly knocking it against another full carboy. Starts with a small leak, then the glass break spider webs out, then boom starts spraying out under pressure, then imagine trying to stop a hole in a dam with your finger but panicking...not good. Managed to tilt the carboy away from the break and pour the contents into a pail saving most of the wine. Just being safe.
 
Anyone using the Better Bottle for bulk aging? This way there is no glass to break. It just gets me nervous using plastic for a long time. I do use them now for the secondary fermentation.
 
I'm using a Better Bottle right now to bulk age a cab. The thought of the plastic does haunt me in the back of my mind, but my greater concerns are my two little girls that run around like two little boys!
 
Bottled up 10 of each batch today, blending the remaining
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Ill let the blend sit for a week or so before bottling. Then maybe next spring know what Ive got.
 
Pinot Nike! Now you know the secret ingredient!
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Wife always had a saying if something tasted good, the cook must of stuck there foot in it!
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The blend is bottled. Now a little time in the bottle and see some results good or bad from this adventure.
 
The red background threw me for a minute. My first thought when I looked at it the last pic was "how and what did he blend to get that cool red wine/white wine coloreffect in one bottle".
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Hi JW!!! I'm still new at this wine game... will the two yeasts, put up two contrasting tastes... I guess I'm asking will yeast make a difference in the final taste????????
 
Wine-O said:
Anyone using the Better Bottle for bulk aging? This way there is no glass to break. It just gets me nervous using plastic for a long time. I do use them now for the secondary fermentation.

I will be starting a test of sorts using the BB. I have 2 meads in progress that will require long term aging (2+ years) and I'll be bulk aging them in the BBs. There will be enough extra (at least that's what I've planned) that I'll also be using a glass gallon jug which I'll be able to compare the meads. There has been a lot of positive feed back regarding the BBs and a lot of doubt because its plastic.
By the way JW still waiting on the taste tests - I know its still early........
VC
 

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