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[JohnT]

Yeah, the existing sheathing looks okay; I am installing a 3/4" plywood deck over this. As you may notice, the existing decking is skip sheathing (for cedar shakes), so a new sheathing deck is called for in any case. Why 3/4"? I am installing clay tiles!

Clay tiles??? How do your roof joists look? That is a LOT of weight.

 

[plowboy]

So that's how the pros really make wine. Explains a lot

 

[sour_grapes]

Clay tiles??? How do your roof joists look? That is a LOT of weight.

Yeah, they do weigh a lot. I had a structural engineer review it, and it passed. (I had to beef up the garage, though.)

As I mentioned above, I had 3 roofs on the house as it was: one cedar, and two asphalt. Guess what? That weighs just about the same as clay tile! So the experiment has already been done, more or less.

 

[JohnT]

Yeah, they do weigh a lot. I had a structural engineer review it, and it passed. (I had to beef up the garage, though.)

As I mentioned above, I had 3 roofs on the house as it was: one cedar, and two asphalt. Guess what? That weighs just about the same as clay tile! So the experiment has already been done, more or less.

I suppose you are right, the three layers already on the roof probably would weigh more.

Are tiles hard to install? Living in the north east, with all of the hot-cold-hot-cold, clay tiles are usually avoided. I never had the chance to see one installed.

 

[ibglowin]

Wow, are you sure you want a clay tile roof in Milwaukee, WI? I agree with JohnT that your Winters would wreak havoc on clay breaking them down in short order. I think there is a reason they are popular in California and parts of the desert Southwest. Mild Winters. Make sure you get a heck of a good warranty!

Yeah, they do weigh a lot. I had a structural engineer review it, and it passed. (I had to beef up the garage, though.)

 

[zalai]

To sour grapes ,
For your roofing project I would like to recommend recycled tire roofing. http://www.euroshieldroofing.com/ ( I don't work for them , but you might like it )

 

[sour_grapes]

I suppose you are right, the three layers already on the roof probably would weigh more.

Are tiles hard to install? Living in the north east, with all of the hot-cold-hot-cold, clay tiles are usually avoided. I never had the chance to see one installed.

Wow, are you sure you want a clay tile roof in Milwaukee, WI? I agree with JohnT that your Winters would wreak havoc on clay breaking them down in short order. I think there is a reason they are popular in California and parts of the desert Southwest. Mild Winters. Make sure you get a heck of a good warranty!

Guys, thanks for your concern, but tile roofs have been used in northern locations for centuries. They typically last about 100 years. I get a 75-year warranty. The higher-end homes in my 100-year-old neighborhood mostly have tile roofs. Generally speaking, tile roofs have a much higher up-front cost but lower life-cycle cost.

For people in the southwest, there is room for confusion. Tiles are graded according to how porous they are. It is easier/cheaper to make a tile that that is somewhat porous, whereas to limit the porosity, you need to fully vitrify the tile. Lower-grade tiles absorb water and then break down during freeze-thaw cycles, i.e.., they cannot stand up to winter.


The ASTM provides standards for grading clay tiles.

ASTM C1167, “Standard Specification for Clay Roof Tiles,” addresses material characteristics, performance requirements, and dimensional tolerances for roof tiles. The standard provides a classification by grade for durability and a classification by type for appearance.

A roof tile’s resistance to freeze damage is classified as one of three grades:

Grade 1 provides resistance to severe frost action;
Grade 2 provides resistance to moderate frost action; and
Grade 3 provides negligible resistance to any frost action.

I got Grade 1, obviously. I expect to be dead before this roof needs replacing.

 

[plowboy]

Steel roofs seem to be what people around here are moving too.

 

[cooldood]

First let me say I do not like summer
So in hot days I try to think of winter.




This pic is not chopped. I took Sam snowshoeing during a night storm

 

[ibglowin]

Truer words have never been spoken……

 

[vernsgal]

I want one of these!

 

[Runningwolf]

Kim you have to have a large tank of Argon to go along with it in addition to the space. I added mine where we had a built in oven and it worked out fine. I like how it keeps each wine cooled to the prescribed temp you want it at. I was actually thinking of getting the one you could used kegged wine with before getting this one. Wine bars are starting to go with kegs vs bottles now when buying from wineries.

 

[ibglowin]

Pics or it never happened…… LOL

 

[vernsgal]

Kim you have to have a large tank of Argon to go along with it in addition to the space. I added mine where we had a built in oven and it worked out fine. I like how it keeps each wine cooled to the prescribed temp you want it at. I was actually thinking of getting the one you could used kegged wine with before getting this one. Wine bars are starting to go with kegs vs bottles now when buying from wineries.

OMG! I am so envious!

 

[Runningwolf]

Pics or it never happened…… LOL

Ahhh come on couldn't you at least let me fantasize for a bit. They (Wine Station) cost about $5000 for 4 bottles on Amazon with no ratings. They have a different brand a lot cheaper for around $800 with lousy ratings.

Idea: What about putting wine in a five gallon keg pressurized with argon and running into your refrigerator water line? Probably not a bright idea.

 

[plowboy]

^ I've had worse. Much, much worse

 

[vernsgal]

Ahhh come on couldn't you at least let me fantasize for a bit.

Boo to you! I believed!!

 

[ibglowin]

You can't shat a shatter!

 

[ibglowin]

Believe it or not…. LOL

We just got a new Smith's Marketplace store which opened up in town. They have a 14 station Wine Station as well as 8 beers on tap in the middle of the grocery store! You can have a glass of wine or beer while you shop!

 

[beano]

Dog says what the........? Meet Andy. He's my Bud.