I use a search notification on Craigslist. Carboys, wine making, wine frig, coolers and cellars. Got my first wine kit for Christmas and I now have 3 bulk aging and one in primary and still have 3 empty carboys. Never paid more then $30.00 and got one brand new in the box for $20.00 and never traveled more then 10 miles. Also got a 70 bottle Eurocave for $50.00 that works. Thank you Craigslist!