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[JimInNJ]

"tannin ft rouge" -cart
Does a nice job of avoiding everyone who wants me to add the product to my shopping cart.

 

[Ajmassa]

"tannin ft rouge" -cart
Does a nice job of avoiding everyone who wants me to add the product to my shopping cart.

Gonna need full reports on the rouge/chips/neither experiment—-in about 3 years.

 

[stickman]

A study was done comparing oak chips vs tannins; it's an interesting read, but understand that it was conducted by a manufacturer, so you can decide for yourself if you trust the conclusions.

http://vinestovintages.ca/LaffortHelpfulHints/Tannins vs Oak Chips.pdf

 

[JimInNJ]

In that study they illustrate that lightly toasted oak has almost four times as much extractable tannin as medium toast, and even state "It is obvious that for maximum structural contribution a lightly-toasted chip should be used", and then they proceed to use Medium toast American oak chips in the trial.

I can't help wondering how Light toast French oak would have compared.

 

[stickman]

When I look at the numbers, they say they added 300ppm tannin and compared that to adding oak chips at 3kg/ton; for the oak, that's only 33g tannin added per ton based on the extractable tannin content, and for the VR Supra they added 300ppm or 300g tannin per ton. That's not really an even comparison, although they implied that the oak addition rate was typical for the winery. I like how they messed around with the units forcing the reader to do some math.

 

[JimInNJ]

Product X is more effective than product A, as long as you use nine times as much of it.

 

[Ajmassa]

This week on 60 minutes : how the makers of certain fermentation tannins are bending the rules..... and lining their pockets! And How an underground hobby forum busts the lid right off off.

Next week we delve into the underworld of bed linens.... they never expected us to count- the results are shocking!