Seems like we pushed it past the moderators' limits. While I understand why they do what they do, I do not agree with it. I'm with you though. They are talking about banning any rifle with a pistol grip under the action and taxing ammo at 50 percent in my state.
But let's not turn this into a debate thread.
For the record me and UBB had a private message exchange and we both stated that we respected each others opinions and respected each other for meaningful discussion. And I respect everybody's opinion here and have taken quite a bit away from out discussion. Merry Christmas everybody and a happy, safe new year.