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A Question posted to ChatGPT: what is the best malolactic bacteria to achieve strong fruit forward Pino Noir red wine?
An Answer (instant reply):
For achieving a fruit-forward Pinot Noir with balanced acidity and silky texture, selecting the right malolactic bacteria is crucial. Certain strains are better suited to enhance the fruity aromas and flavors while maintaining harmony in the wine. Here are some of the top malolactic bacteria strains often used for this purpose:
Recommended Malolactic Bacteria for Fruit-Forward Pinot Noir:
1. Lalvin VP41 (Oenococcus oeni)
  • Characteristics: Known for its reliability and versatility, VP41 promotes smooth and controlled malolactic fermentation. It enhances mouthfeel without significantly diminishing fruit character.
  • Benefits for Pinot Noir:
    • Retains vibrant red fruit aromas like cherry and raspberry.
    • Adds complexity to the mid-palate with minimal diacetyl (buttery flavors).
  • Ideal Conditions: Works well in moderate to higher pH wines (above 3.2) with alcohol levels up to 15%.
2. Chr. Hansen Viniflora® CH35
  • Characteristics: Specifically developed for red wines, CH35 preserves varietal character and enhances fruitiness while softening tannins.
  • Benefits for Pinot Noir:
    • Amplifies fresh, juicy fruit notes.
    • Enhances silky texture, emphasizing Pinot Noir's elegance.
  • Ideal Conditions: Performs well in wines with moderate alcohol and temperature-controlled fermentations.
3. Lallemand Beta
  • Characteristics: This strain is known for its low production of diacetyl, ensuring that the wine remains fruit-forward without a dominant buttery note.
  • Benefits for Pinot Noir:
    • Maintains pure fruit expression (red cherry, strawberry).
    • Supports clean, balanced acid profiles, crucial for Pinot Noir.
  • Ideal Conditions: Suitable for wines with moderate acidity and alcohol levels.
4. Enoferm Alpha (Oenococcus oeni)
  • Characteristics: A gentle and fruity strain, Alpha is particularly popular for premium Pinot Noir.
  • Benefits for Pinot Noir:
    • Enhances red berry and floral notes.
    • Produces a well-rounded mouthfeel with a clean finish.
  • Ideal Conditions: Performs well in wines with a wide pH range (3.1–3.5) and alcohol levels up to 15%.
5. Scott Labs MBR 31
  • Characteristics: MBR 31 is known for its ability to retain fruit character and minimize buttery or creamy flavors.
  • Benefits for Pinot Noir:
    • Maintains fresh fruit aromas while softening tannins.
    • Ideal for delicate, aromatic Pinot Noir styles.
  • Ideal Conditions: Works well in moderate pH (3.2–3.6) and moderate alcohol levels.
Tips for Successful Malolactic Fermentation in Pinot Noir:
  1. Timing:
    • Inoculate malolactic bacteria after primary fermentation (or co-inoculate with yeast if preferred).
  2. Temperature:
    • Maintain fermentation temperatures between 18–22°C (64–72°F) for optimal bacterial activity.
  3. SO₂ Levels:
    • Keep free SO₂ levels low during malolactic fermentation (below 10 ppm) to avoid inhibiting bacteria.
  4. Nutrient Support:
    • Use malolactic fermentation nutrients like Opti-Malo Plus or Acti-ML to ensure healthy bacterial growth.
  5. Acidity:
    • For wines with a pH below 3.2 or high acidity, select strains like VP41 that tolerate lower pH.



By using one of these strains and following proper fermentation practices, you can craft a Pinot Noir that showcases its signature fruit-forward elegance and balance. Let me know if you'd like help with a step-by-step plan!
 
Does that mean we have to stop asking questions here? :(
That depends on you.

Machine Learning tools are very good for basic research, such as producing a list of MLB and their characteristics. It honestly saves time, but that is only the first step in the decision making process.

Note: the software is NOT intelligent. A parrot is smarter, by an infinite order of magnitudes. Calling is "artificial intelligence" is a marketing gimmick. It is artificial, but the only intelligence involved is in the people that built it.

The software pulls from numerous sources, most of which it treats as correct. It's got a fantastic internal algorithm for weeding out the false ... but it apparently uses the preponderance of evidence to make blind decisions. If 1 source says the sky is blue while 100 say it's black, the software will say it's black. Reality is not part of the decision making process, just the inputs.

What is the best way to use the software? I cannot tell you "best", but the way I'd use it is exactly what @A14ES did -- he asked a well worded question that is not too specific. The software pulled info from applicable sources which provides a start point.

From here? It's up to the individual to look at the results and decide which is best for their need.

This may include asking a question on WMT to get the benefit of practical experience. Something the software cannot do.

Keep in mind that all computer programs are no better than their inputs. I've been in IT for 40+ years, and the term "garbage in, garbage out" predates me ... 😂
 
Does that mean we have to stop asking questions here? :(

AI is nice and probably has a use, but people and their experiences should always be great. So, keep asking questions.
 

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