Ok, no problem there uavwmn. Are you more partial to the Trinity Red or to the Barolo? I just made 6 gals of Cab Franc, Merlot, and Pinot Noir. So I think im either going to get the Trinty or the Barolo then get two white kits that I can make and have them ready in time for summer. Probley two of the easy drinking Island Mist Kits, not sure though, still open to suggestions on that.