Other Weird degassing issue? Your thoughts?

[knockabout]

Hi I'm hoping one of you can solve my mystery. Tonight we bottled a yummy cellar craft Tempranillo after bulk aging 5 months. We degassed 3 months Ago using the drill method, tonight we degassed with the drill stirrer again then used the vacu-vin on each bottle individually to remove any lingering gas. Weirdly enough some bottles seemed to have co2 but others seemed to be sufficiently degassed already and release no further co2. I can't figure out why the heck some would have co2 and others none from the same 5ish gallon batch. Any thoughts? Thanks!

 

[vacuumpumpman]

How do you know it is CO2 ?

Could you possibly going thru MLF ?

Any bubbles in the wine ?

When you open a bottle does the cork want to pop off ?

 

[WVMountaineerJack]

Never heard of anyone degassing each bottle with a vacuvin, you might be starting a new degassing craze 2 possible things, either you were not consistent with the vacuvin, hard to imagine that since they are so easy to use, or in the bottling process some degassed while you were putting them into the bottle just enough to be different. WVMJ

 

[ShepherdQ]

Have to agree with vacpumpman, without testing it you can't be sure you're observing CO2.

What are the signs/symptoms that lead you to believe there's residual CO2 in some bottles?

 

[WVMountaineerJack]

VPM what other kind of gas do yeast or bacteria make? You guys are missing the time frame, its all in a manner of time it takes to bottle, no period of time between bottling and opening. OP did not describe method of filling his bottle, so how did you guys fill your bottles up? WVMJ

 

[knockabout]

I filled it up with my manual bottling wand - saving up for a AIO. I think there is residual gas because I see it fizz up when I use my vacu vin. I realize I am using it at an unusual time, but thought my strategy would be worth a shot in the battle against co2.
It is a kit wine, cc Tempranillo tasted delicious but you could taste that taste I've come to think of as co2 kinda fizzy on the tongue. Would be cool if it went through spontaneous mlf but don't think so.

 

[knockabout]

I kinda think it may have been that some of the bottles degraded as filling since it's an odd collection of leftover bottles now that you mention it.
Thanks for all the input guys!

 

[WVMountaineerJack]

How could the size of the bottle possibly degrade your wine? THat would be more like your wine had a problem in the carboy and would have I think affected all the bottles. Filling by hand with a wand could easily introduce some variablilty, especially if you are comparing different sized bottles to each other. You might justify a late Christmas present of a vacum pump Spontaneous MLF takes place over weeks or months, not during bottling, but if you found one that does please share it with the rest of us I think your use of the vacuvin was creative, were there more bubbles in the bigger bottles than the little ones? WVMJ

I kinda think it may have been that some of the bottles degraded as filling since it's an odd collection of leftover bottles now that you mention it.
Thanks for all the input guys!

 

[Putterrr]

I over carbonated some cider so had to open them up and let them foam out in my sink. Some bottles lost 1/2 to a 1/3 and others not much at all. Cant explain the difference as they were all bottled together. Stuff happens

Nice thinking out of the box with the use of a vacu-vin

cheers

 

[knockabout]

How could the size of the bottle possibly degrade your wine? THat would be more like your wine had a problem in the carboy and would have I think affected all the bottles. Filling by hand with a wand could easily introduce some variablilty, especially if you are comparing different sized bottles to each other. You might justify a late Christmas present of a vacum pump Spontaneous MLF takes place over weeks or months, not during bottling, but if you found one that does please share it with the rest of us I think your use of the vacuvin was creative, were there more bubbles in the bigger bottles than the little ones? WVMJ

Sorry was supposed to be degas not degrade. My smart phone outsmarted me again!