well just got home from picking grapes we got doug some bronze, nobles, and luckily we found some big reds so that made his day I think. I had a ball with them the 2 of them have the cutest daughter I think became pals of sorts seems she loves my cane, and I gotta tell it thank God I didn't have to pee or I'd been drowned (set up daughter is poking my cane through the grape vines being a kid having fun well mom wasn't noticing this and was picking away intent on grapes when all of a sudden this black thing darts out at her she bout well lets say the look on her face was priceless) oh man I couldn't keep from laughing.