RonObvious
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Quick story with two mysteries I'm hoping someone can explain: This past weekend we picked up 6 gallons of hot pressed Marquette juice. TA was a little high, so I figured out that I had to add about 60 grams of calcium carbonate. I planned on using the double-salt technique of de-acidifying, but realized when I got home that I didn't have as much CaCO3 as I thought I had. Woops! So I quickly ordered more with 2 day shipping and figured the juice would be fine for 2 days in its plastic bucket because I had carefully sanitized the bucket and had watched the fellow at the vineyard add sulfite to the juice.
But Monday night (while still waiting for the CaCO3 to arrive) I happened to look at the airlock and saw a bubble. Uh-oh! Must be wild yeast, I thought, so I added more sulfite.
Last night the CaCO3 finally arrived. When I went down to the basement to grab about 2 gallons for the double-salt acid neutralization procedure I noticed it was still fermenting!
MYSTERY #1: What kind of wild yeast survives hot pressing AND two doses of sulfite??
So I ignored the fact that it was already fermenting. Not much I can do about it now, I thought. I grabbed approximately 2 gallons of juice, added the required 60 grams or so of CaCO3, stirred it occasionally for an hour or so, then dumped it back in with the rest of the juice. So far so good.
Here comes the weird part. I also needed to add about 2 lb of sugar to bring it to 23 brix. I weighed the sugar, added some water, microwaved and stirred until it was mostly dissolved, then let it cool to just above room temperature. As soon as I dumped the sugar water into the juice - BAWHOOSH! Juice foaming like crazy, pouring over the sides of the bucket, making a HUGE mess everywhere! Pants and shoes permanently stained purple. Basement floor and workbench permanently stained purple. GAAHHH!
MYSTERY #2: Why did it foam so violently when I added sugar water? I've never had that happen before!
Anyway, I siphoned the juice that remained into a 6 gallon carboy. Given the epic frothy disaster it made all over the basement, I thought I must have lost a lot of juice. But when I siphoned it from the bucket into the carboy it ended up filling the carboy about 90% full, so I'm thinking I really only lost a liter or so. I added my chosen yeast (already reconstituted), put a stopper and airlock on it and began the sticky job of cleaning up.
This morning everything seems OK - the airlock is bubbling along merrily down there. So hopefully the influence of the wild yeast is benign and everything is going to be good. But I'm just left wondering - what the heck happened??
But Monday night (while still waiting for the CaCO3 to arrive) I happened to look at the airlock and saw a bubble. Uh-oh! Must be wild yeast, I thought, so I added more sulfite.
Last night the CaCO3 finally arrived. When I went down to the basement to grab about 2 gallons for the double-salt acid neutralization procedure I noticed it was still fermenting!
MYSTERY #1: What kind of wild yeast survives hot pressing AND two doses of sulfite??
So I ignored the fact that it was already fermenting. Not much I can do about it now, I thought. I grabbed approximately 2 gallons of juice, added the required 60 grams or so of CaCO3, stirred it occasionally for an hour or so, then dumped it back in with the rest of the juice. So far so good.
Here comes the weird part. I also needed to add about 2 lb of sugar to bring it to 23 brix. I weighed the sugar, added some water, microwaved and stirred until it was mostly dissolved, then let it cool to just above room temperature. As soon as I dumped the sugar water into the juice - BAWHOOSH! Juice foaming like crazy, pouring over the sides of the bucket, making a HUGE mess everywhere! Pants and shoes permanently stained purple. Basement floor and workbench permanently stained purple. GAAHHH!
MYSTERY #2: Why did it foam so violently when I added sugar water? I've never had that happen before!
Anyway, I siphoned the juice that remained into a 6 gallon carboy. Given the epic frothy disaster it made all over the basement, I thought I must have lost a lot of juice. But when I siphoned it from the bucket into the carboy it ended up filling the carboy about 90% full, so I'm thinking I really only lost a liter or so. I added my chosen yeast (already reconstituted), put a stopper and airlock on it and began the sticky job of cleaning up.
This morning everything seems OK - the airlock is bubbling along merrily down there. So hopefully the influence of the wild yeast is benign and everything is going to be good. But I'm just left wondering - what the heck happened??