@Johnd all I can say is wow! I'm pretty sure I wrote about my experience with Gruaud Larose in a previous post, but it's worth mentioning again. In the early 90's my wife received a 1985 vintage bottle as a gift from a client at work. I put it down in the cellar and just forgot about it, other than it was French wine, I really had no idea what it was. In the late 90's a friend was over at the house and I decided to open the bottle, neither of us knew what we were about to experience, he drank wine but had no idea about anything other than typical grocery store bottles. After the first sip went down we just looked at each other in amazement, the flavors of the fruit and tannin that started in the mouth and sensations went all the way down the throat. I'm not implying that it's the best wine in the world, my commercial wine tasting is somewhat limited, but to this day, I've never experienced anything like that at any price point.