when good wines gone bad

[geek]

Geek, think of it this way ,if I add raisins to the primary it then becomes a partnerships with the base wine and one wine. Adding to the whole.
If I add it to the secondary then it becomes a background enhancement and helps built structure as well .
CAN you see the difference????

I understand, but since I don't know Amarone that much I wanted to know which way for you has proven to be better.
I am just venturing into making Amarone. My MM Impressions kit will be here next week.

 

[LittleBearGameFarm]

Great thread again guys. Question for you...

I just started this WE Amarone kit and will probably rack it to secondary next week some time. My dad gave me a bunch of cranberries to use for a wine some time. I was thinking of dumping the cranberries in with the lees, grapeskins, and raisons and running a second batch through them. I'm thinking I'll add some cranberry juice, apple juice, sugar, additives, etc to get to 5 gallons. Is there anything I should be concerned with on a second running with grapeskins/raisons? Do you think I would get much taste from the lees/skins or any tannin structure? Would this just be a waste of good cranberries?

Thanks!

 

[joeswine]

Amarone in the flow

GEEK place them in the primary that's' an excellent starting point, then tannins to the secondary,capitalize the wine ,go back and follow the process.....patients and process will ,win out.

LITTLE BEAR GAME Farm, NO CRANBERRIES. Just follow the WINEXPERT PROCESS, and go back on this thread and review the flow...........

 

[vacuumpumpman]

I will be picking up my Wine expert Amarone on Thursday - hopefully I will be able to start it in the next week or so !

I am sure I will be asking questions as I go down this new path -

 

[joeswine]

Amarone in the flow

STEVE, good choice read the basic instructions, then have all the material at the ready before you start, I,ll will be right here step buy step if you need me.REMEMBER,were going to capitalize, add tannins, add oak, add raisins,step by step............it will be a wine making adventure.

 

[joeswine]

Kate's chardenay

EASY KIT TO MAKE AND AFFORDABLE NOT TO MENTION THE GREAT TASTE OF THIS FUN WINE FOLLOW THE FLOW..................

 

[joeswine]

Kate's chardenay

LETS CONTINUE THE JOURNEY WITH KATE'S CHARDENAY AND BY THE WAY THIS WINE TOOK FIRST PLACE AT THE GLASSBORO WINE FESTIVAL AT A COST OF ABOUT $1.75 PER BOTTLE...FOLLOW TO THE END.

Cornocopia Chardonnay Kit​

This kit we purchased off Amazon for ~$45.00 shipped. This kit is contained the chardonnay concentrate, as well as labels, corks, caps, packets of yeast, sorbate, bentonite, k-met, and chitosan. This kit contains the essentials for any new winemaker (minus the basic equipment that is needed.)
What we added:
1 cup American Oak cubes
2 ball jars of simple syrup
Spring Water
The steps:
First, we added the bentonite and ½ gal. warm water and stirred until dissolved.
Next, we added the packet of chardonnay juice and then topped up to 6 gallon mark on our primary fermenter.
Then, we took an SG reading. The kit as is, came to 1.080. We wanted our SG reading to be at 1.10, so we added the ball jars of simple syrup, one at a time (and took readings in between). We ended up using both jars and this brought us up to our desired SG reading: 1.10. We wanted this specific SG reading because we do not want fermented fruit juice, we wanted wine.
Next, we gave the bucket a good stir, added the yeast, and then added our American Oak cubes.
The last step: We document the contents on our tag, hang it on the bucket, and drape a towel over the top. Now we wait.
Update!!
We checked the SG tonight (6/20/14) and it is at 0.99. This is dry and ready to rack to the secondary carboy. We racked it to our secondary, marked the SG reading and the date on our tag and hung it on the carboy.
Our wine is coming along!
Stay tuned...
..........................WE DID A COLD STABILAZATION ON THIS ONE TO MAKE IT SPARKLE THE ADDITION OF THE GRAPEFRUIT ZEST WAS SPOT ON ..

 

[joeswine]

Kate's chardenay

go back and review Kate's CHARDENAY,easy and quite tasty...

 

[olusteebus]

Was that cornucopia chardonnay the peach Chardonnay.

I have been wanting to try it but I did not know how sweet it would be.

 

[joeswine]

Kate's chardenay

the kit stated that it was a straight chardenay and after the tweaks was very nice for a $1.62 bottle of wine,really!

 

[geek]

Joe,

I might be venturing into my first Chardonnay, wondering if you ever tried battonage on your Chardonnay?

 

[olusteebus]

the kit stated that it was a straight chardenay and after the tweaks was very nice for a $1.62 bottle of wine,really!

No, I meant the cornucopia kit?

 

[joeswine]

geek

my personal oppion is I have done it in the past but don't see any benefit to a kit, that's just me. it may have a better affect with fresh juice or grapes. I can't be sure.

 

[joeswine]

Diablo rojo kit

DIABLO ROJO,is a complex wine and it's my first. Follow the process and see how it moves off the typical path ......................

 

[joeswine]

DIABLO ROJO KIT continued

Still on the course follow the flow note the fermentation cap it started the next day and smells just lovely.

 

[geek]

wow.....that kit brings a lot of oak being a cheap kit....

 

[joeswine]

Diablo rojo kit

ACTUALLY TO ME IT'S A MID-GRADE KIT AT $86.00 BUT WELL CONSTRUCTED FOR THE TYPE OF WINE IT IS TO PRODUCE,AND IT SMELLS FANTASTIC..NOTHING LIKE THE SMELL OF FERMENTATION IN THE MORNING..

 

[geek]

looking good joe.

It is a 10L kit and with the sale going on now it is cheap at $78.82 shipped; not bad.

 

[joeswine]

DIABLO ROJO KIT continued

ACTUALLY I USE TO GET THESE KITS FOR $60.00 THE LAST FEW I DID UNDER THIS FORMAT WERE BUT WHEN I SAW THIS KIT ,THIS STYLE I JUST GRABBED IT.NOT LOOKING AT PRICE , IT WAS NOW OR NEVER THE OBSESSION TOOK CONTROL AND I WENT TO THE DARK SIDE....IT IS NOW DAY 5 OF PRIMARY FERMENTATION STILL GOING STRONG,SMELLS JUST AMAZING.

 

[joeswine]

DIABLO ROJO KIT continued

we are now out of the primary and the degassing and waiting begin ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,