My vote is biased. The lhbs only sells winexpert and that's all I've ever made. About 1/4 of the 100 gallons or so I make annually is kit wine. Half comes from juice buckets and the rest; db, skeeter pee and apfelwein.
Bejesus!
I just went to www.finevinewines.com as many here noted they use them. They are EXPENSIVE! They want over $70US more for the Eclipse Super Tuscan than what I pay for it and the same for all the other Eclipse kits!
Their prices are above retail! ($169 retail vs their $188) Ouch!
I paid $114 for my Super Tuscan at LP.
I use Cellar Craft and RJS most of the time. I avoid Wine Expert because of the MAP pricing. I refuse to play that game. It's a shame because I would like to try a couple Eclipse kits. Oh, well, I will live with my decision.