I just wanted a dozen layers, but you have to order 25 chicks for shipping, we always had layers when the children were young but never tried meat birds, so I got a package with 10 layers and 15 meat birds, meat birds should be ready in 10 weeks or so, the layers will take 20 or more weeks to lay eggs, if the meat birds are as good as I have been told, I might have to build another coup and keep that up. I mostly wanted fresh eggs and meat for my daughter and grandsons, they live within city limits and can't have chickens.