I was going to jump with both feet into this topic, but then I walked away and came back a little more calmer. It is nice to see that most of these posts make some darn good points about how society has failed. As for TonyP, you are what we call the sheep. When the wolf shows up and threatens you and your flock, you hope that the sheep dog will come to your rescue.
Now let me say this, I know nothing about growing grapes and making wine and that is why I enjoy learning so much from this site, but let me tell you this, when I took early retirement in 2011, I had worked the street for 37 years. I was a patrol Sgt and chief of police for a small 10 man dept. I worked on the academy level for over three years and was mainly involved in firearms and tactics. On retiring, I was a captain within a city of over 100,000. I also worked for a large university police department with over 30,000 students. I taught 6th grade D.A.R.E. for two years in a local middle school. I seen first hand how parents were raising their kids like they were some type of pet and how these kids were never told NO. TonyP, I was the sheep dog and I got sick of protecting those who did absolutely nothing to protect themselves. I may not know anything about grapes and wine, but I do know the street!
Further more, the media is reporting this as the worst school incident in U.S. history. Let me say this, after being involved in rapid deployment training, where we trained in the schools, this was not worst. As part of my training, we studied them all and 1927 Bath Michigan is still tops and no guns there TonyP.
My thoughts and prayers are with the families. In my 37 years, responding to incidents where small children were involved was something that would just turn your stomach. Sorry to have rambled on, but this makes me sick. And YES, the media needs to get the hell out of there and leave these poor people alone!
The Bath School disaster is the name given to three bombings in Bath Township, Michigan, on May 18, 1927, which killed 38 elementary school children, two teachers, four other adults and the bomber himself; at least 58 people were injured. Most of the victims were children in the second to sixth grades (7–11 years of age[1]) attending the Bath Consolidated School. Their deaths constitute the deadliest mass murder in a school in U.S. history and the third-deadliest non-military massacre in U.S. history, behind 9/11 and the Oklahoma City bombing.
The bomber was school board treasurer Andrew Kehoe, 55, who died in a car bomb he set off after he drove up to the school as the crowd gathered to rescue survivors from the burning school.
On the morning of May 18, Kehoe murdered his wife by beating her to death, then set his farm buildings afire. As fire fighters arrived at the farm, an explosion devastated the north wing of the school building, killing many schoolchildren.