New to this forum, and winemaking. May have been a bit spoiled as our first kit turned out excellent (GrandCru International, Argentine Malbec-Syrah) without any problems.
We're now on our second kit, WineXpert German Muller Thurgau, and having doubts. Wine sat in primary fermenter (bucket) and secondary (carboy) longer than kit specified but specific gravity was fine at both stages so didn't think this would be a problem. The only issue we saw was that the elderflowers- added as specified- didn't want to settle out, so when we reached what should have been bottling day we re-racked using cheesecloth "filter" over siphon hose. The wine is clear, although darker coloured than expected (more amber than straw). My husband described the first taste (from siphon hose) as strong, and maybe a little yeasty? I sampled a bit after we finished re-racking and can definitely taste the elderflowers, which is ok, but it seems a bit strong to me as well, and for lack of a better description, homebrew-ish? I guess that would be what he is calling yeasty. We did some google-ing but there isn't a lot of info on German Muller Thurgau, except for debates about whether or not the elderflowers should be included. A few sites mentioned that a yeasty tasting wine should be left to sit longer before bottling, but those sites also mentioned cloudiness which isn't an issue for us.
The only info I found that could be helpful was on the WineXpert site, which suggested that if a wine is browner than expected and smells sherry-ish then it may have oxidized OR if it smells of yeast or bread it could be autolysis. While we don't find that the wine SMELLS of yeast or bread (or sherry) the taste could be described as a bit yeasty or sherry-ish. The fix described for both is re-racking (already done) and adding sulphites.
Is this taste normal for a German Muller Thurgau? Should we let it sit longer to let yeast settle before bottling? Is there a more precise way to check wine for oxidation or autolysis?
Any suggestions welcome!
We're now on our second kit, WineXpert German Muller Thurgau, and having doubts. Wine sat in primary fermenter (bucket) and secondary (carboy) longer than kit specified but specific gravity was fine at both stages so didn't think this would be a problem. The only issue we saw was that the elderflowers- added as specified- didn't want to settle out, so when we reached what should have been bottling day we re-racked using cheesecloth "filter" over siphon hose. The wine is clear, although darker coloured than expected (more amber than straw). My husband described the first taste (from siphon hose) as strong, and maybe a little yeasty? I sampled a bit after we finished re-racking and can definitely taste the elderflowers, which is ok, but it seems a bit strong to me as well, and for lack of a better description, homebrew-ish? I guess that would be what he is calling yeasty. We did some google-ing but there isn't a lot of info on German Muller Thurgau, except for debates about whether or not the elderflowers should be included. A few sites mentioned that a yeasty tasting wine should be left to sit longer before bottling, but those sites also mentioned cloudiness which isn't an issue for us.
The only info I found that could be helpful was on the WineXpert site, which suggested that if a wine is browner than expected and smells sherry-ish then it may have oxidized OR if it smells of yeast or bread it could be autolysis. While we don't find that the wine SMELLS of yeast or bread (or sherry) the taste could be described as a bit yeasty or sherry-ish. The fix described for both is re-racking (already done) and adding sulphites.
Is this taste normal for a German Muller Thurgau? Should we let it sit longer to let yeast settle before bottling? Is there a more precise way to check wine for oxidation or autolysis?
Any suggestions welcome!