Cynewulf
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I’m looking forward to your pruning update in winter/spring!I can see having land is work, but rewarding as well.
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I’m looking forward to your pruning update in winter/spring!I can see having land is work, but rewarding as well.
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Great post! Yes, I've found that timing decision of when to harvest is one of the biggest decisions influencing the end taste profile of the wine. I've made very nice 23 brix wine and different, but equally as nice 28 brix, watered back to 26 brix wine. For me, it depends on the varietal if the wine would be better erring on the early side vs. later side. I see Zin, Cab, Syrah as varietals that can stand up to the higher brix. If it were Pinot or Grenache, I thinik the decision would be easy.Depends what you want in the finished wine. If you prefer over ripe, high alcohol, fuller body but possibly flabby wine that will need acid adjustment, let ha itng. If you prefer a wine with more finesse, go by balanced Brix and acid levels in the grapes as long as verasion has happened. May get more balanced wine with less need for adjustment but not as big and bold. Longer hang times has been a CA thing for a while to make those big, fruity over ripe wines with higher alcohol that people love but there are plenty of incredible wines that are made with less hang time and have great balance and complexity. The hardest wine I have made to date due to needed acid adjustments was from grapes out of Paso Robles where they wanted long hang time to get higher Brix but the pH was 4 along with low TA and the adjustments with tartaric acid were a nightmare to get it to stable pH giving the wine an over acidified taste that has taken years to calm down with aging. This reduced the quality of the wine and I wish they would have picked earlier with more stable acid levels.
Also, tastes the grapes yourself to get a sense of sweetness, acidity and phenolic content in the skin. This may help a lot.
AMEN! I shake my head when people think/say they wish they had land/acreage/vineyard. I roll my eyes when they say "How wonderful it would be to sit on my porch with a glass of _______ and admire my land/acreage/vineyard." The best remark was "Once you get it planted, that should be most of your investment." If you don't have property, you have no idea the work/expense involved. It is rewarding if you can stay awake long enough to enjoy the results. I wouldn't trade it for anything.I can see having land is work, but rewarding as well.
I’m looking forward to your pruning update in winter/spring!
If you don't have property, you have no idea the work/expense involved.
I'm not sure what a normal grape growing season is like anymoreű
I did the vineyard assessment over the weekend. Overall, the fruit is hit and miss. There are some really nice clusters and other area where the vineyard neglect is reflected in the fruit. This season will be an “it is, what it is” vintage.
Syrah: 47 vines, 70% usable fruit, 23.5 brix / 3.5 pH. Improperly pruned, not sprayed or irrigated early in the season. Significant mildew (dropped in pic below) on the end vines that look to be getting more water than the other. t has signs of mildew, excessive fruit on some vines, inconsistent ripening, some bird/bee and other animal damage on the low hanging fruit.
Improperly pruned, not sprayed or irrigated early in the season. A mix of fruit load by vine; excessive fruit on some vines, inconsistent ripening.
I am surprised how fast my Cab Sauv is ripening this year in San Jose. I already had crunchy brown seeds last week, but also I have millerandage in several clusters which makes me not want to pick any time soon. And I had a lot of shatter, so a smaller yield also. I will irrigate and let the fruit hang
Nice grapes, I’ve got some cab that’s coming in probably first week of September right now the Sangiovese from about 50 miles north of me is in and I’m harvesting tommorrow. This has been a weird year because a lot of growers are seeing grapes early and lower than normal yields some vineyards are seeing just half of what they normally would expect.maybe I worry too much. It seems that one vineyard has Cab all in 18-21 Brix, but the Merlot is hitting 24. I think the Merlot is dehydrated—I’m turning on the water. Merlot has been dry cropped all year.
some good some bad Cab clusters.
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The vineyard I source Barbera from has consistently hit ripeness and harvested Labor Day weekend....at least for the last three years. This year things are running a little earlier. Measurements from 8/13 had Brix of 24.5 - 25.0, pH of 3.2. We want to get pH up to 3.3-3.5 and can water back the Brix. With the weather we've had, pH increases of .1 per week and Brix increases of .5-1.0 per week are expected. Target harvest is 8/24 or 25.FWIW, I had an email chat today with a vineyard in Fiddletown. They said they have never picked (Barbera) before Sept 1st.
That’s a good brix, the Sangiovese I harvested hit 25-26 brix ph of 3.6. Good stuff, pretty much textbook for what it’s supposed to be.The vineyard I source Barbera from has consistently hit ripeness and harvested Labor Day weekend....at least for the last three years. This year things are running a little earlier. Measurements from 8/13 had Brix of 24.5 - 25.0, pH of 3.2. We want to get pH up to 3.3-3.5 and can water back the Brix. With the weather we've had, pH increases of .1 per week and Brix increases of .5-1.0 per week are expected. Target harvest is 8/24 or 25.
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