REVIEW: *allinonewinepump*

[vacuumpumpman]

Wow,
Great to hear about the longevity of this product as I just purchased mine before the fall and haven't used it for bottling yet. Not having to lift carboys is is a god send.
Thanks Steve

Wait till you try bottling - I enjoy bottling more than anything now. So much easier standing up and especially the premium filler that only takes 1 hand where I can bottle and cork all at the same time. I am typically watching a tv show as I am sitting on a high chair at the same time , very relaxing

 

[Sailor323]

Yes we made some changes in the past several years - vacuum regulator, carrying handle, attachments holder and especially the premium wine bottle filler. Take a look at this video as it will help with the bottle filler =

I am glad you were on Santa's Good list !

Carboy must be on the floor! Deal breaker. The whole purpose of having a pump is to avoid having to lift a full carboy.

 

[Rocky]

Carboy must be on the floor! Deal breaker. The whole purpose of having a pump is to avoid having to lift a full carboy.

In my career and personal life, I have encountered very few, if any, pieces of equipment that have no "cons" but in the case of the AIO pump, the "pros" dwarf any negatives. I have my carboys on tables, approximately 2' off the floor. I have a number of "furniture dollies" (Harbor Freight for about $10) and if I need to move a carboy for bottling, I lower it to the dolly from the table and shuffle it around as required. The AIO makes bottling a breeze and the miniscule effort required to lower it to the dolly is essentially at the "noise level."

Also, when I bottle, I normally do a "last racking" so I set an empty carboy on the dolly and use my auto siphon to rack into it.

 

[mainshipfred]

In my career and personal life, I have encountered very few, if any, pieces of equipment that have no "cons" but in the case of the AIO pump, the "pros" dwarf any negatives. I have my carboys on tables, approximately 2' off the floor. I have a number of "furniture dollies" (Harbor Freight for about $10) and if I need to move a carboy for bottling, I lower it to the dolly from the table and shuffle it around as required. The AIO makes bottling a breeze and the miniscule effort required to lower it to the dolly is essentially at the "noise level."

Also, when I bottle, I normally do a "last racking" so I set an empty carboy on the dolly and use my auto siphon to rack into it.

Somehow my post didn't get attached, see below.

 

[Khristyjeff]

Carboy must be on the floor! Deal breaker. The whole purpose of having a pump is to avoid having to lift a full carboy.

I know kit instructions often say to elevate the carboy until bottling, but I only elevate mine as high as a Harbor freight dolly raises it off the ground. That way I don't have to lift a filled carboy. I love the All-in-One and would have a very hard time going back to my old process.

 

[mainshipfred]

I agree with everything you said. All my my 5, 6 and 7 gallon carboys are on dollies. The 2.5 and 3's might be on a shelf but are light enough to handle. I made custom dollies that are the exact size as 2 milk crates which makes storage more efficient. With regard to lifting if you were to gravity fill or rack you would still have to lift a carboy to above the receiving vessel level.

 

[wineview]

Can you use the all in one pump from carboy to a bucket and vice versa? Or does there need to be a vacuum on both ends?

 

[Khristyjeff]

Can you use the all in one pump from carboy to a bucket and vice versa? Or does there need to be a vacuum on both ends?

Needs to be a vacuum on the receiving end only.

 

[wineview]

Seems I’m always siphoning into a bucket to degass or so I can reuse the carboy. Into a bucket clean and sanitize the carboy back into the carboy. I know a lot of people seem to like this pump but after watching the video, I don’t think it’s for me.

 

[Raptor99]

Carboy must be on the floor! Deal breaker. The whole purpose of having a pump is to avoid having to lift a full carboy.

My normal method before bottling is to use the AIO pump to rack into a clean carboy on the floor. Then I mix in any pre-bottling additions, and bottle from the carboy on the floor. I don't need to lift any carboys.

As an alternative, you could use a gravity siphon to move the wine to a bucket on the floor, and then use the AIO pump to bottle as usual.

 

[wineview]

My normal method before bottling is to use the AIO pump to rack into a clean carboy on the floor. Then I mix in any pre-bottling additions, and bottle from the carboy on the floor. I don't need to lift any carboys.

As an alternative, you could use a gravity siphon to move the wine to a bucket on the floor, and then use the AIO pump to bottle as usual.

True but I’m still lifting a carboy. To me the All in One looks like a lot of hoses and gadgets that then need cleaning and sanitizing.

 

[Rocky]

True but I’m still lifting a carboy. To me the All in One looks like a lot of hoses and gadgets that then need cleaning and sanitizing.

True, and it is a lot easier than cleaning most equipment. I put the tube in a bottle of K-meta, run it through to a wine bottle (once or twice) and then run clear water to rinse. Could not be easier or faster.

 

[wineview]

True, and it is a lot easier than cleaning most equipment. I put the tube in a bottle of K-meta, run it through to a wine bottle (once or twice) and then run clear water to rinse. Could not be easier or faster.

I’m curious. Why would you rinse the Kmeta solution out of the hoses before storing.

 

[winemaker81]

I’m curious. Why would you rinse the Kmeta solution out of the hoses before storing.

Residue will dry in the hoses.

I tried storing a carboy with K-meta solution in it. The SO2 evaporated and mold grew in the water. It was a mess to clean.

 

[Raptor99]

True but I’m still lifting a carboy. To me the All in One looks like a lot of hoses and gadgets that then need cleaning and sanitizing.

I do not lift any filled carboys. I only lift empty ones. Cleaning the hoses is not more difficult than cleaning hoses used for a gravity siphon. But of course, you use whatever method works for you.

 

[Rice_Guy]

I’m curious. Why would you rinse the Kmeta solution out of the hoses before storing.

My normal practice on 1/4” or 3/8” is to flush with One Step then run some water then hang from the basement ceiling. If I am concerned I will whip the tube to let gravity pull any liquid out.
On 1/8” air lines I frequently squirt distilled water followed by grain alcohol and spinning to remove liquid, and then put them back on the vacuum system.

 

[wineview]

Residue will dry in the hoses.

I tried storing a carboy with K-meta solution in it. The SO2 evaporated and mold grew in the water. It was a mess to clean.

Before storing any equipment, I rinse with StarSan and let drip dry. Hoses, carboys siphons etc. Never had an issue. Perhaps the chemical composition of KMeta is different.

 

[Rocky]

I’m curious. Why would you rinse the Kmeta solution out of the hoses before storing.

What Bryan said, above, and I don't want the K-meta left on any SS parts. It could corrode them.

 

[winemaker81]

Before storing any equipment, I rinse with StarSan and let drip dry. Hoses, carboys siphons etc. Never had an issue. Perhaps the chemical composition of KMeta is different.

They are totally different. Star San is a strong acid while K-meta is sulfur dioxide. They both sanitize (e.g., reduce levels of microbial life to below a threshold where they are not a danger to the wine) in different ways.

And as @Rocky said, sulfur will corrode metal. This is among the reasons I don't bother sanitizing things before storage -- I just ensure they are clean as as dry as feasible.