SKEETER PEE PORT

[hounddawg]

Not Dawg, but both of those amounts are more than I would think you would add add bottling time. I would expect 1/4 tsp of kmeta. And maybe none, depending on when you last added it.

hum, i'll try lighter, oxidation worried me, i picked up the habit reading on here for a long time, i either , added none, or just at bottling, for a few years i did not add any at anytime, and never had any trouble,, is it more of a problem with grapes, since i read on more grape threads since country wines we are so few,,,
Dawg

 

[hounddawg]

I expect @cmason1957 means CO2.

i stir with a drill , in both agents,
Dawg

 

[Val-the-Brew-Gal]

hum, i'll try lighter, oxidation worried me, i picked up the habit reading on here for a long time, i either , added none, or just at bottling, for a few years i did not add any at anytime, and never had any trouble,, is it more of a problem with grapes, since i read on more grape threads since country wines we are so few,,,
Dawg

I've only ever added 1/4 tsp. but I don't bulk age so that's why I feel comfortable with that amount.

 

[hounddawg]

I've only ever added 1/4 tsp. but I don't bulk age so that's why I feel comfortable with that amount.

i'm confused, are we now talking, co2 or finingings? not from you Val, but from the last 4 or 5 posts, lol
Dawg

 

[hounddawg]

so, i can safely go back to no potassium metabisulfite at rackings and 1/4 at bottling, with my health, i am planning to supply my own wake, , and don't wish to have bad wine served, of course, i am onary, very onary, and will try to drink it up and leave a ,,BRING YOUR OWN SIGN ,,,
Dawg

 

[DizzyIzzy]

i usually on skeeter pee and dragons blood use dura fine and give it from 10 to 14 days before i rack them everything else i use time on, i rack every 3 months from 1 to 2 years on except for my straight elderberry, which i rack for about a year, then bulk age for several more years,,
Dawg

Dawg, why Durafine and not Sparkalloid?........................Dizzy

 

[DizzyIzzy]

Not Dawg, but both of those amounts are more than I would think you would add add bottling time. I would expect 1/4 tsp of kmeta. And maybe none, depending on when you last added it.

Thanks,cmason.......................seems like there is a differing of opinion being noted here on the forum: what's a youngster supposed to do? LOL....................Dizzy

 

[DizzyIzzy]

I expect @cmason1957 means CO2.

KC, I thought the same thing after I pondered on it for awhile......................Dizzy

 

[Val-the-Brew-Gal]

Dawg, why Durafine and not Sparkalloid?........................Dizzy

I'll just jump in. I think it's certainly a personal preference or opinion based on what a winemaker has experienced regarding past performance of one over the other. I've had great results with Durafine so it's my fining of choice

 

[KCCam]

Dawg, why Durafine and not Sparkalloid?........................Dizzy

I’m not Dawg, but there is much discussion about it in the forum. @dangerdave did a side-by-side test some time ago. Generally, sparkaloid is cheaper, but harder to use, and many people find after it seems perfectly clear they get a very fine wispy sediment in their bottles. I think a lot has to do with what you are fermenting and how long you are willing to let it clear. Most people I’ve heard that have tried the kieselsol/chitosan combination (DualFine / SuperKleer / Claro K.C.) never go back. Including Danger Dave! His recipe calls for sparkaloid, but he wrote it before he tried SuperKleer.

 

[KCCam]

Thanks,cmason.......................seems like there is a differing of opinion being noted here on the forum: what's a youngster supposed to do? LOL....................Dizzy

I understand the best way is to measure the SO2 in your wine and calculate the proper dose. But over-doing it a bit doesn’t hurt, so most use a “rule-of-thumb.” I’ve seen 1/4 tsp every racking or second racking when bulk aging, and 1/2 tsp at bottling. Note that the 1/4 tsp when racking does not apply when racking during fermentation.

 

[cmason1957]

I understand the best way is to measure the SO2 in your wine and calculate the proper dose. But over-doing it a bit doesn’t hurt, so most use a “rule-of-thumb.” I’ve seen 1/4 tsp every racking or second racking when bulk aging, and 1/2 tsp at bottling. Note that the 1/4 tsp when racking does not apply when racking during fermentation.

I would only add 1/2 tsp at bottling to something that I planned to age somewhat and if I had done a racking not to long before bottling, say to filter (which I don't do with skeeter pee), a week or so before bottling, I would not add any more. Particularly given the somewhat low PH of skeeter pee, adding 1/4 every racking is probably overkill.

 

[KCCam]

Particularly given the somewhat low PH of skeeter pee, adding 1/4 every racking is probably overkill.

Yes you're right, I guess I was think more for regular grape wine. I think Dawg might, but you generally wouldn't likely be bulk-aging SP either, would you?

 

[hounddawg]

Your supply is on its way. Should get it first of week.

dang man, now that is a supply, nice, i got 3 kinds ready, will send them, will let you know when i do, and when i bottle i'll have a few more kinds i'll send then,,,

Dawg, why Durafine and not Sparkalloid?........................Dizzy

it was what i tried first, and never tried anything else. all my other wines i age from a year to 2 years, except my straight elderberry, which gets much longer, so nothing but my quick drinkers get finings, all the rest time and gravity takes care of. lol,,, so you like Sparkolloid better, i recon i need to check it out, i bought some bentonite once, sill have it some where, just never used it,
Dawg

 

[hounddawg]

Yes you're right, I guess I was think more for regular grape wine. I think Dawg might, but you generally wouldn't likely be bulk-aging SP either, would you?

to me bulk aging SP, is 3 to 4 weeks, quick drinker,
Dawg

 

[hounddawg]

i am a deep woods southerner, my phrases and grammar are different than others, lol,, don/t get me wrong i had to learn when i worked the road as a Mall Rat,,, i dealt with state and city officials and multi-billionaire developers.
but i am now back to my roots, and as happy as a hawg in mud,,, lol
Dawg

 

[DizzyIzzy]

I’m not Dawg, but there is much discussion about it in the forum. @dangerdave did a side-by-side test some time ago. Generally, sparkaloid is cheaper, but harder to use, and many people find after it seems perfectly clear they get a very fine wispy sediment in their bottles. I think a lot has to do with what you are fermenting and how long you are willing to let it clear. Most people I’ve heard that have tried the kieselsol/chitosan combination (DualFine / SuperKleer / Claro K.C.) never go back. Including Danger Dave! His recipe calls for sparkaloid, but he wrote it before he tried SuperKleer.

KC, That's good to know. I think once I have finished my supply of Sparkalloid I will start using the Superkleer (just to be on the safe side). To date the Sparkalloid is clearing really well.....................Dizzy

 

[KCCam]

KC, That's good to know. I think once I have finished my supply of Sparkalloid I will start using the Superkleer (just to be on the safe side). To date the Sparkalloid is clearing really well.....................Dizzy

I’m betting once you try it you won’t go back. Much easier to use, and the sediment seems more compact, so it doesn’t get pulled into the racking cane as easily so you don’t have to leave as much behind when you rack.

 

[hounddawg]

KC, That's good to know. I think once I have finished my supply of Sparkalloid I will start using the Superkleer (just to be on the safe side). To date the Sparkalloid is clearing really well.....................Dizzy

like KC i use super clear or dualfine, both the same just different brand names
Dawg

 

[hounddawg]

I would only add 1/2 tsp at bottling to something that I planned to age somewhat and if I had done a racking not to long before bottling, say to filter (which I don't do with skeeter pee), a week or so before bottling, I would not add any more. Particularly given the somewhat low PH of skeeter pee, adding 1/4 every racking is probably overkill.

yep i think on the potassium sorbate vs potassium metabisulfite, i had got it confused, with each other, i dug out my notes, of which i keep very few, now as for fining i only use finings on quick drinkers, i get a little of i as well as confuse my threads, most know i have a very shafted spine, and i take for my back but only when not drinking, i get for home use 4 mg of Hydromorphone, every six hours, but my life is great, every morning i thank the lord for every day, as for anyone worried by my meds and alcohol, i have hashed it all out with my doctors,,,
Dawg