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Like I said, backsweetening with Raspberry may prove to be a mistake, but I am going to let it simmer down and age.
I had a heck of a time dealing with the sparkalloid goop,
but I got about 3 bottles out of a gallon.
I am thinking I would like to try this age, to see if I can do a better job next time!

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Work and life has led to my skittle wine sitting in bulk for about three months longer than I planned, though it cleared better than planned. However, the lees/floaty crap didn't settle all that well, and some made it into the racking I did last night. Also had to leave more of the wine in the much than I planned; took 1.3 bottles of a grenache rose to top it up. I estimate that my skittle wine is now about 15% rose. I'm ok with that percentage, but I think I'll likely bottle after a little settling, and definitely run it through a filter. Still, sample was pretty good. Plan to bottle within the next two weeks...
 
Elmer said:
Like I said, backsweetening with Raspberry may prove to be a mistake, but I am going to let it simmer down and age.
I had a heck of a time dealing with the sparkalloid goop,
but I got about 3 bottles out of a gallon.
I am thinking I would like to try this age, to see if I can do a better job next time!

Had the same problem with bentonite, so I think it's just a general problem with the gunk in the skittles not being heavy enough. My new approach for any future batches: visually clear as best as possible, transfer as much clear wine and as little lees/gunk as possible, filter, bottle. :)
 
greyday said:
...I think it's just a general problem with the gunk in the skittles not being heavy enough. My new approach for any future batches: visually clear as best as possible, transfer as much clear wine and as little lees/gunk as possible, filter, bottle. :)

Definitely check out the full description of my process on page 22. Super Kleer and Amylase Enzyme will drop out all particles and leave it crystal clear. My five bottles from my one gallon carboy look like bottled water. No filtering necessary.
Cheers
 
So I'm planning on trying this but I need to ask- does it taste like a wine ( I'm planning on using grape concentrate rather than welches) or is it more like DB? No offence to DB but I think of that as more a wine cooler in taste. Either way I'm still planning on giving it a go I just want to know what to expect.
 
I used the concentrate for my favereds starburst wine and to me, it had a light red wine taste on the palate and finished with a sweet fruity taste. It didn't last long as everyone who drank it really enjoyed it. Even my non wine drinking friends.
 
So has anybody found any disadvantages to using Beano instead of amylase enzyme?
 
I was going to try the beano when I couldn't find amylase enzme, got lucky though and ordered some. I don't honestly know why it wouldn't work. I just wasn't able to figure how much to use per gal. Someone here I'm sure will know.
 
so the crazy few of us out there that did the starburst wine, did you back sweeten or was it plenty sweet without? did you backsweeten with more starburst?
 
Has anyone tried submitting this recipe to malolactic fermentation?
My results were favorable, but was a bit sharp. I either want to reduce the added acid blend from the full tsp I used per gallon, or use MLF; or both.
 
I have made both wines, Skittles and Starburst. If I had a choice of making either one again, I would make the Starburst.
 
I like the flavor of the Starburst better. I think it has more of a candy flavor. The only part that I disliked was peeling off the wrapper.
 
I like the flavor of the Starburst better. I think it has more of a candy flavor. The only part that I disliked was peeling off the wrapper.

did you back sweeten the starburst wine? if so what did you use? i've got a gallon sitting ready to rack sweeten and bottle.
 
did you back sweeten the starburst wine? if so what did you use? i've got a gallon sitting ready to rack sweeten and bottle.

No, I didn't back sweeten but I sorbated it before it fermented dry. I had problems with the skittle wine clouding up so I went this route.
 
Vintage Raelity method for Skittles Wine (1 gallon):

{Vintner's Note: Remember, no recipe can ever outproduce good sense. Use this as a guideline, but remember your training. If something sounds implausible, there may be a reason for that. Follow blindly at your own risk. [that's just good life advice...]}

I approached this wine as one would a white. The intention is to preserve as much fruity flavors as possible, which means a slow and cold fermentation. I was seeking an alcohol content between 11.5-12% vol. Furthermore, prior to beginning, I expected to ferment this to dry, and simply make a dry wine, in opposition to most people's approach on this thread. However, in the midst of making the wine, the sweetness prior to completing the fermentation was delectable. I ended up still fermenting to dry, and backsweetened part of my batch so to make the end result of both ways.

Ingredients:
  1. 3/4 lb Skittles
  2. 8.4 oz Welch's 100% white grape juice concentrate (not diluted)
  3. 1 gallon drinking water
  4. 1 tsp pectic enzyme (powder)
  5. 1/4 tsp wine tannin
  6. 1 tsp yeast nutrient
  7. 1 tsp acid blend
  8. 1 packet yeast, EC-1118 (though, I suggest a slower yeast strain, such as Cote Des Blancs or Montrachet)
  9. 2 2/3 cups granulated sugar (add incrementally until your own readings hit your desired brix levels)
  10. 1/4 tsp amylase enzyme
  11. 1/4 tsp potassium sorbate
  12. 1 package Super-Kleer
  13. 2 Campden Tablets

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Boil 32oz of the drinking water in a large enough pot to incorporate all skittles and grape juice concentrate, and still be able to stir without concern of spilling. Once water comes to a boil, remove from heat, add skittles and stir constantly till fully dissolved. Let cool slightly, then add grape juice concentrate without diluting with water as its directions dictate.

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Let mixture cool to room temperature, then store in refrigerator overnight (at least six hours) to harden top wax layer.

Skim wax layer off top of liquid. Pour mixture into primary fermentor. Add pectic enzyme, wine tannin, yeast nutrient, and acid blend. Mix well.

Take hydrometer reading. Based on your desired alcohol content, determine whether or not you will need to utilize chaptalization (adding sugar to must). You almost undoubtedly will need to add sugar. Add sugar incrementally, by small portions, stirring until dissolved, then take hydrometer readings after additions until you've reached your desired brix level.
My recipe ended up using 2.66 cups of granulated sugar resulting in a specific gravity of 1.090 (11.7% Alc/Vol), whereas the original recipe called for 4.33 cups of sugar. That's nearly doubling the amount, which quite accounts for the several stuck fermentations written of in this thread.

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At this point, it is prudent to note that I have mixed the preparation of red and white wines together. Rather than immediately going into a carboy for fermentation, as one usually does with a white, I left it covered in the primary fermentor for the first four days. This was a personal decision, and needn't necessarily be followed. I did, however, have access to remove some of the thickening buildup on the top of the must once fermentation began by doing this.

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Next, I added the yeast directly to the must. Though I suggest priming the yeast in 2oz of warm water for fifteen minutes prior to pitching. You may simply add to the top of the must, no need to stir.

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After full fermentation begins, rack to a sanitized carboy, leaving enough room for fermentation to continue. (Do not add SO2/Campden Tablets at this point) Subject to cold bath by placing carboy in larger vessel filled with enough water to come up less than the shoulders of the carboy. Add ice to the bath; the best method is to use several plastic water bottles that can be placed in the water bath, then switched out with other bottles, and refreezed in a constant rotation.

Check hydrometer readings every few days, as well as slight taste tests of must as it's fermenting to get an idea of where it's going. At any time, you may decide the sweetness is at a point you'd rather stop and preserve rather than continuing to ferment. If so, simply add 1/4 tsp of potassium sorbate, stir to mix.

Once hydrometer readings get close to 1.000 SG, stir in amylase enzyme. (I hit 1.011 SG on my eighteenth day)

Once 1.000 SG is reached (my twentieth day), add potassium sorbate and stir to mix. You may allow must to continue fermentation until it stops. I was pleased with my tastings when I hit 1.000, so I added the potassium sorbate.

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The following day, add Super-Kleer as per its directions.
If you intend to backsweeten your wine, wait to add Super-Kleer until after you've added your sweetening liquid to your taste, making sure your fermentation has been halted by the potassium sorbate. Mix 8 parts drinking water to 3 parts skittles to 2 parts grape juice concentrate, using the same method of boiling as your initial must required. Begin taste tests to see how much backsweetening liquid you need to add to your wine. I found 5oz of backsweetening liquid for each 750ml bottle was perfect.

Once wine has cleared and lees have settled, rack into sanitized carboy adding one crushed campden tablet. (two days for me)

Let sit for five weeks, submitting to cold stabilization if you have room in your refrigerator for the third and fourth weeks. Remove from refrigerator and let sit at room temperature (70*F or less, but no more than 75*F) for one week.

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Unlike my directions state, I added the backsweetening liquid at this point. Obviously not the best idea if you're looking for a clear wine, as it will make it as cloudy as it was before the Super-Kleer. But, as one never quite knows what to expect when trying a wine for the first time, you may change your mind as to whether you want sweet or dry wine in the midst of the entire affair.

When the five weeks are complete, sanitize your bottles. The cold stabilization should have helped eliminate tartrate crystals from forming in your bottles, as they will now have formed in your carboy and fallen with the lees. Rack wine to sanitized carboy, adding one crushed campden tablet.

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Siphon wine into bottles, then cork.
Let the bottles stand upright for three days before placing on their side or upside down to age.

Bottle age for three to six months.


That brings us about as far as I am. So, unfortunately, I have yet to give results on whether I'd prefer and/or suggest it dry or sweet. But hopefully this has been helpful and will guide some people along the right path to how they want their wine to turn out.
Again, remember that there is no replacement for your own judgement, experience, and taste.

A question to this particular passage ". I did, however, have access to remove some of the thickening buildup on the top of the must once fermentation began by doing this."

Did you skim off the crud during primary as it bubbled up? I'm looking at mine now on day 2 and see a lot of the waxy crud. Wondering if I should skim it off or let it ride.
 
Did you skim off the crud during primary as it bubbled up? I'm looking at mine now on day 2 and see a lot of the waxy crud. Wondering if I should skim it off or let it ride.

Yes, I skimmed the build up on top for about three days before racking to carboy. I highly suggest you do this, if you decide to begin fermentation in a primary fermentor, rather than straight to a carboy. The build up can become quite bothersome to clean off of your surfaces after long exposure.


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If you search the internet, you will see that you should never add sorbate to a cloudy wine, are a wine that is still in fermenting stages....
Adding sorbate to a cloudy are fermenting wine will lessen its ability to inhibit a refermentation, later down the line.
 
Thanks Photoactive! Just needed clarification on that particular bit.
 
If you search the internet, you will see that you should never add sorbate to a cloudy wine, are a wine that is still in fermenting stages....
Adding sorbate to a cloudy are fermenting wine will lessen its ability to inhibit a refermentation, later down the line.

Interesting; I'd never heard that before. So, I suppose that the concept of using sorbate to halt fermentation at a certain sweetness level is just not a very good one then?
Really, "never"?


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