Getting decent feedback is and should be the most important element a wine maker can get good or bad always take into account the quality of a wine makers sanitation skills,they are the basic premise by which we start the process.The base wine is the element that in most cases will make or break a wine's potential before you start whether it's,grapes,fruit ,fresh juice or a kit,qualitycomes an goes, you need to be able to understand the Sg,Ph and a wide variety of other components needed to complete your journey.Even the best pro's fail at times but try to overcome there faults and start . Home wine maker's are known different we win some and lose some but never give up.So to all of you who entered thank You from,Johnt and I . Luck has nothing to do with wine making ,patient,sanatation and the understanding of the process does.s signing off till afterwards Joeswine.