Vacuum degassing - How much vacuum should I pull and why

[jethro]

Can I degas my carboy by hooking it up to an old Shop-Vac (electric vacuum cleaner) that I use for cleaning sawdust & debris off my porch? How would I measure the pressure? Is there some kind of manometer that is sold for this purpose? Would doing this ruin the Shop-Vac motor?

Has anybody done this? Or is this a bad idea?

 

[bkisel]

Can I degas my carboy by hooking it up to an old Shop-Vac (electric vacuum cleaner) that I use for cleaning sawdust & debris off my porch? How would I measure the pressure? Is there some kind of manometer that is sold for this purpose? Would doing this ruin the Shop-Vac motor?

Has anybody done this? Or is this a bad idea?

I tried it and no bubbles came up. Guessing that Shop Vacs maybe move a lot of air but not with much pressure/vacuum.

My little wine bottle hand pump works for degassing but it takes a lot of pumping over the course of 2-3 days. Many folks use brake bleeder pumps. From what I read here the All in One pump is the way to go.

 

[vacuumpumpman]

The shop vac is a good idea and all - but I don't think it has enough vacuum though. You are going to need a good amount of vacuum and LPM (liters per minute for the proper flow) You have to have both in order to degass properly and still have enough vacuum to keep everything running smoothly.

 

[jethro]

Just as well. It's too noisy to run for more than a few minutes.

 

[jimmyjames23]

You can buy a 12-24v vacuum pump on eBay for $20. Works great. Runs off a laptop charger.
http://bit.ly/19IqAyN

 

[oreoman]

Looking for opinions on the gas getter. My LHBS uses one and I like it. I see how everyone likes the allinone but I don't know if I want a bottler also. Plus I ferment in one room and rack and bottle in another. So I still have to move carboys.
Any opinions would be appreciated

 

[FTC Wines]

Two suggestions, 1) put your fermentation vessels on a rolling cart, "furniture moving dollies" as low as $15 ea & you can move 2 carboys on it at one time. 2) the AIO bottler is the best, makes bottling both FUN & PROFESSIONAL. Roy

 

[MrKevin]

Looking for opinions on the gas getter. My LHBS uses one and I like it. I see how everyone likes the allinone but I don't know if I want a bottler also. Plus I ferment in one room and rack and bottle in another. So I still have to move carboys.
Any opinions would be appreciated

I use the gas getter and like it a lot, the only con is there is no gauge to know the hg being created.

Kevin

 

[diywinemakers]

Just uploaded 3 youtube videos including a Vacuum Degassing Kit
http://www.diywinemakers.com
We also sell vacuum gauge too if you want to watch how many vacuum you are getting

 

[vacuumpumpman]

This is a great explanation of degassing from winedegasser with some great links for anyone interested in the science like I am. Thought it would be interesting to some of my friends on here who haven't seen it. Great info.


Sent from my iPhone using Wine Making. As always, appreciative of everyone's effort and help making this site educational and fun

Yes it is -

Just to let you know that -
winedegasser now goes under the name of diywinemakers -
since he had to switched his product line.

 

[dralarms]

Yes it is -

Just to let you know that -
winedegasser now goes under the name of diywinemakers -
since he had to switched his product line.

So what you are saying is that diywinemakers is the same person as winedagasser? That's messed up.

 

[Just-a-Guy]

I have no idea who either of these people are (although it looks like one is a vendor?), but I thought most forums prohibited having multiple ID's?

 

[diywinemakers]

The ID "winedegasser" was a personal ID and has been deactivated for more than 18 mouths.

We are now an incorporated company and under the ID "diywinemakers".

Our product has evolved into a multi-functional FDR system (Filling, Degassing and Racking).

Please visit our website http://www.AceWineSupplies.com for more information.

Cheers,

 

[dralarms]

"Interesting" design to say the least. Is that 160.00 complete or do you have to buy "extras"?

 

[diywinemakers]

"Interesting" design to say the least. Is that 160.00 complete or do you have to buy "extras"?

Yes the $160 Floor Corker FDR Package comes with everything except the floor corker.

This is a list of the compatible floor corkers -
www.acewinesupplies.com/documents/filler-corker-connector

And you would also need a regular wine bottle (or a jar or carboy) as the overflow container and a regular racking cane of course.

Cheers,

 

[dralarms]

Went to your page, is that the vacuum pump just hanging off the back held on by a screw clamp?

 

[richmke]

Went to your page, is that the vacuum pump just hanging off the back held on by a screw clamp?

The Parts page shows the vacuum pump

 

[dralarms]

The Parts page shows the vacuum pump

Didn't go to the parts page. Went to the description page and it appears that thd pump is being held on by a metal screw clamp.

 

[Just-a-Guy]

Didn't go to the parts page. Went to the description page and it appears that thd pump is being held on by a metal screw clamp.

I couldn't figure it all out, studying the web page. No offense to the seller, but the elegance of the All-In-One had me from hello. Using mine again this weekend to rack a few batches and bottle one batch. May come up a bottle short by the time Saturday is over.

 

[diywinemakers]

Sorry that's an old picture of my prototype taken 1 year ago.

This is the vacuum station DIY plan. It's for DIYers so it does not look pretty but works.
http://www.acewinesupplies.com/documents/diy-building-a-wine-making-vacuum-station

AND we have a batch of pre-made vacuum station housing made of stainless steel and PVC coming in. I will have the website updated when I get them.

This is our oil-less untra-quite vacuum pump


Cheers,

Went to your page, is that the vacuum pump just hanging off the back held on by a screw clamp?