when good wines gone bad
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RCGoodin
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WINEXPERT IS GOING TO SPONCER US TO PROCESS AND COMPLETE THEIR TOP OF THE LINE AMAROME KIT ON THIS FORUM,THIS ALL CAME ABOUT WITH THE ADVENT OF THE SANGIOVESE KIT PROCESS THAT WAS POST HERE,REMEMBER?,THEY LIKED THE FORMAT AND TIM VANDERGRIFT GAVE HIS BLESSING AND CORK AND BARREL GOT THE CALL THEY CALLED ME AND WE ARE READY TO ROLL WITH THIS PROJECT,SO STAY TOON FOR A TOP OF THE LINE WINE KIT WITH A TWIST.
WINEXPERTS SELECTION AMARONE
Joe, I think it is the WE International Selection Amarone. I just picked this kit up. I'm looking forward to it since I did a cheap kit and my wife loved it and so do did I. I'm looking forward to comparing it to this high end kit.
What is Wine Expert looking for from this forum?
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Winexpert -selection kit amarone
WHEN ASKED WHAT DO YOU WANT? AMARONE CAME FIRST OR ANY BIG ITALIAN RED..................THIS WAS THEIR RESPONCE
they where at the helm, but it really doesn't matter their kits are consistent and that's what does count, I have worked with grape packs before nothing new there, this kit is a top of the line kit in the winemaking world so it's a departure from what i would normally do ,this is a opportunity to work with the big boys in the wine world, and a chance to step it up a notch, geek it really is the same kit if you think about it in simple terms just different players in the deck, this will be fun ,think of it as THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX.
STAY TOONED ............WILL BE POSTING THE TASTINGS OF EARLS,COFFEE PORT AND WOLFMANS TRIO OF PORT DE-LITES.
WHEN ASKED WHAT DO YOU WANT? AMARONE CAME FIRST OR ANY BIG ITALIAN RED..................THIS WAS THEIR RESPONCE
they where at the helm, but it really doesn't matter their kits are consistent and that's what does count, I have worked with grape packs before nothing new there, this kit is a top of the line kit in the winemaking world so it's a departure from what i would normally do ,this is a opportunity to work with the big boys in the wine world, and a chance to step it up a notch, geek it really is the same kit if you think about it in simple terms just different players in the deck, this will be fun ,think of it as THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX.
STAY TOONED ............WILL BE POSTING THE TASTINGS OF EARLS,COFFEE PORT AND WOLFMANS TRIO OF PORT DE-LITES.
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Just a note of thanks to Joe.
Joe, this thread inspired me to reexamine each wine before I bottle it, and I had an orange wine that wasn't right. It was crystal clear, stabilized, backsweetened, but still wasn't right...it just didn't strike the drinker as orange wine.
Good wines gone bad to the rescue. I added orange rind, peeled with a potato peeler. A month later, the orange rind is white, and the wine is orange!
Bottling today.
Joe, this thread inspired me to reexamine each wine before I bottle it, and I had an orange wine that wasn't right. It was crystal clear, stabilized, backsweetened, but still wasn't right...it just didn't strike the drinker as orange wine.
Good wines gone bad to the rescue. I added orange rind, peeled with a potato peeler. A month later, the orange rind is white, and the wine is orange!
Bottling today.
Boatboy24
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This is going to be cool. Can't wait to read about it. Congratulations Joe.
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Just thinking about joeswines new venture with the Amarone. Any bets the folks at the Winexpert Secret Scientific Labs (AKA Tim V's office) tried Joe's process and liked the results? Since this is a total departure from their instructions, they certainly can't 'endorse' the idea but their actions suggest they don't want to discourage it either. Way to go Joe! I wasn't planning to make an Amarone this year but may have to change that plan.
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Amarone
IF all goes well Kate and I will start the process starting this Thursday......................Kate is my data a photo op's person,I'm the mad scientist..............together we can put together a great package of info and visuals...........we think?..................................thanks for the input..
IF all goes well Kate and I will start the process starting this Thursday......................Kate is my data a photo op's person,I'm the mad scientist..............together we can put together a great package of info and visuals...........we think?..................................thanks for the input..
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joeswine said:IF all goes well Kate and I will start the process starting this Thursday......................Kate is my data a photo op's person,I'm the mad scientist..............together we can put together a great package of info and visuals...........we think?..................................thanks for the input..
Very excited to see this all documented! Thanks for this thread, Joe!
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Joe, congrats on the sponsorship! Being that this will be a higher quality kit, do you think this kit will need a lot less tweaks? Also, by tasting the juice , cam you tell what the kit may need to improve it?
RCGoodin
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Joe, when you begin are you going to use the kit yeast, or your own choice. Would it be feasible to have three gallons with kit yeast and three gallons of other yeast?
I recently read an article about a guy that did that with a Riesling. He thought you wouldn't be able to discern any differences for at least 6 months bottle ageing. And he thought it would take a very seasoned wine taster to find differences. He was amazed at the differences he witnessed even in the fermentation and all through the process. He bottled doing a 100% of each yeast and then a 75%/25% of one and then 75%/25% of the other. His conclusion was amazing at how different each tasted.
I thought this would be right up your alley. OUT of the BOX.
I recently read an article about a guy that did that with a Riesling. He thought you wouldn't be able to discern any differences for at least 6 months bottle ageing. And he thought it would take a very seasoned wine taster to find differences. He was amazed at the differences he witnessed even in the fermentation and all through the process. He bottled doing a 100% of each yeast and then a 75%/25% of one and then 75%/25% of the other. His conclusion was amazing at how different each tasted.
I thought this would be right up your alley. OUT of the BOX.
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Winexpert -selection kit amarone
Where going to have to stay close to the bone on this one, but I have to say there is nothing much I would change on this one, they have ample oak, maybe I'll add some tannins in the finial layering, great package of grape skins in juice ,dextrose to make simple syrup with,(imagine that),all this will be posted starting Thursday, we will go step by step and create a wonderful wine from this mosaic of materials, and maybe a twist if needed, If I can ,I will also be running at the same time a WINEXPERT-WORLD VINEYARDS COLLECTION MOSCATO, this I will do with a twist, I have made this in the past but with fresh juice and grapes combined, this will be the first of this style from a moderately priced kit, so geek that's why the top of the line amarone,a moderate priced kit for the rest of us. This will all be posted starting Thursday data and pics.
stay toon........................Joe/Kate
Where going to have to stay close to the bone on this one, but I have to say there is nothing much I would change on this one, they have ample oak, maybe I'll add some tannins in the finial layering, great package of grape skins in juice ,dextrose to make simple syrup with,(imagine that),all this will be posted starting Thursday, we will go step by step and create a wonderful wine from this mosaic of materials, and maybe a twist if needed, If I can ,I will also be running at the same time a WINEXPERT-WORLD VINEYARDS COLLECTION MOSCATO, this I will do with a twist, I have made this in the past but with fresh juice and grapes combined, this will be the first of this style from a moderately priced kit, so geek that's why the top of the line amarone,a moderate priced kit for the rest of us. This will all be posted starting Thursday data and pics.stay toon........................Joe/Kate
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RCGoodin
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Tomorrow -------------------- Let the games begin.....
