Years ago Ford recalled 1.5 million Pintos because people were blowing up in their cars due to fuel tank location in the event of a crash. All cars have problems, the user need to apply a little common sense.
Does look like there's a lot more inefficiencies in the process than most people think.
Not saying it's not fun to drive, it's just not saving ANY fossil fuel and in fact Wasting more fuel so YOU can have MORE FUN driving. I think you "green" is the wrong color for your thinking.
Excellent viewpoint. It's all personal choices as to what works for you. If you live in California, for example, electric cars are way more attractive. They are heavily subsidized; since 2010, California has handed out over $800,000,000 of taxpayer money to put battery-electric, plug-in hybrid, and hydrogen fuel-cell cars on public roads. They offer a $2,000 tax credit in addition to the upwards of $7,500 federal tax credit. There are lots of charging stations. Gas is more expensive than any other state - 50% more expensive than the cheapest states on average. All these combine to make it have more sense there than a state with no state tax credits, fewer charging stations, and cheap gasoline.
LOL, seems you think that gas grows on trees and doesn't take electricity to produce.
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Here you go Look at the data fossil fuels to electricity way at at he bottom Electricity Generating and Distribution Efficiency The table shows the theoretical efficiency of converting various energy sources by a variety of methods into useful electrical energy. Solar Panels have NO disposal plan! And eventually they go bad as they have already, AND the are toxic as they slowly run off into our water aquifers. That sounds healthy. GAS is NOT great, but it is less evil that what is needed, wasted and contaminated by present day electric vehicles! I wish there was an answer, but it is not todays electric solution.
Common sense? Common sense won't tell you your gas tank will probably blow up if you're in an accident, nor will it tell you there's a good chance your house might burn down if you park your car in the garage.
I hope it doesn't devolve into an ugly version of what it was. Seems typical of social media; take a good and robust discussion/debate and try to ruin it by attacking the people and not the arguments. I certainly don't believe "gas grows on trees", but there is still no agreement on exactly how oil is formed.
, I try not to miss the forest for the trees. Every energy production method will have pros and cons, and each will also have unintended and unexpected consequences. I would enjoy debating anyone on either side of any of them.
I would think that if we progress to nearly 100% electric vehicles that generators would have to become pretty commonplace in order to maintain some degree of normalcy during prolonged power outages of 3 or 4 days which are not that rare up here. I've relied on my gasoline driven buggy to get me to a pizza place, grocery store, etc. a few towns over when power was out. Of course the need for a generator begs the question what will power it? Right now they're mostly gasoline with a small percentage of propane. Oh well, wood heat and kerosene lanterns are always an option - assuming kerosene is still available. I've done that before, many times!!
Agreed. Let's ratchet tensions down and keep this a discussion that is normal for WMT, e.g., a real discussion.
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