1 In 5 California Early Adopters of EVs Move Back To ICE - For Convenience Reasons......

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Fully electric vehicles represent just 2% of new vehicle sales in the U.S. Prior to Covid, the U.S. was averaging about 17 million vehicles per year. 2% electric represents 340,000 vehicles. That's about one fully electric vehicle per 11 square miles.

 

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Tesla Model 3 and Y deliveries 199,049 just for this year's Q2. Up 148% compared to Q2 2020.
Numbers will keep growing exponentially for EVs moving forward, especially when Model 3 is in full production in China.

 

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But is Tesla sustainable in the long run?

Tesla Made a Mountain of Money Selling Credits and Bitcoin (Not So Much in Cars)

 

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But is Tesla sustainable in the long run?

Tesla Made a Mountain of Money Selling Credits and Bitcoin (Not So Much in Cars)

Time will tell if any EV manufacturer will be sustainable.

 

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https://www.realclearenergy.org/art...mbustion_engines_are_here_to_stay_651051.html

 

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“Every single major manufacturer is either looking at or working on hydrogen cars,” says Jon Hunt, a marketing manager for Toyota and head of commercialisation of hydrogen fuel cell vehicles.

“Lithium-ion battery production [for electric vehicles] is very energy-intensive. As an example, a 100kWh battery will give a potential range of 250 miles and, in order to produce that battery, it will take around 20 tonnes of CO2,” says Hunt.

Interesting!!!

Honda will give you $15000 worth of fuel credit if you lease one their hydrogen powered Clarity cars. The only problem is, the only fueling stations are 1 in Quebec and a few on the west coast.

 

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As an example, a 100kWh battery will give a potential range of 250 miles

That cannot be right.

My car has a 75kWh battery and provides over 300 miles of range on a full charge. Depending on temperature conditions my car can give me upwards to 325 miles.

 

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Don't know. That's from a Dec. 2020 article in the UK. Here's the link: Hydrogen fuel cell: do hydrogen cars have a future? | Auto Express

 

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FAQ for the Airpod | Zero Pollution Motors



Of course an 18 wheeler wouldn't even know it hit this thing (and either would you!)

 

[globalnavigator]

The #1 reserves for lithium is in what is call the south American triangle, slat flats,beneath the salt flats is were the raw product lies, a natural wonders and a habitats for flamingos and lyken .the people don't want it destroyed the government of Argentina sold the mineral rights to China.
How green is that,??
Prue and it's neighbor also own part of this landscape, it's call the South American lithium triangle.
So I ask you once again HOW GREEN IS THAT PROGRESS NEVER ENDS.
We move on to better technology and destroy the thing we've supposed to be protecting in the name of PROGRESS, when it suits us.
Just saying .

You're right Joe, now they are moving on to ravage Greenland instead. But hey, the people who can afford EVs can save a couple of bucks each year with subsidized fuel costs so it's all worth it, right?
https://www.reuters.com/business/bi...electric-vehicle-metals-greenland-2021-08-09/

 

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As in life with every positive aspect there's usually a down side.
We keep upgrading and as we do this the vast majority of the poor only keep going further behind d and the the seniors more left behind, I guess that's life? In this exclusive age ?

 

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https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-100-percent-battery-recycling-model/

 

[joeswine]

Heard all that before, Ya!

 

[ibglowin]

Well, well guess they found a loop hole in New Mexico to sell and service your beloved Tesla's @geek

Tesla picks Nambé pueblo for first NM store

NAMBÉ PUEBLO — Sleek electric vehicles now sit inside an old casino north of Santa Fe as part of a first-of-its-kind project between Tesla and a tribal nation.

Nambé Pueblo leaders on Thursday joined U.S. Sens. Martin Heinrich and Ben Ray Luján to highlight the partnership and promote electric vehicles as part of a broader strategy to address climate change.

The new Tesla sales and service center is the first in New Mexico. It’s also the first Tesla facility, officials said, on Native American land in the United States.

“This truly represents a historic moment,” Nambé Pueblo Gov. Phillip Perez told a crowed at the event Thursday.

The pueblo location is critical. New Mexico law prohibits vehicle manufacturers from selling directly to consumers rather than through a franchise dealership, and efforts to allow Tesla storefronts and service centers have repeatedly failed in the Legislature, often amid tense debate.

But the Tesla store sits within the boundaries of a tribal nation, not subject to the state law.

Even so, Senate Majority Leader Peter Wirth of Santa Fe and Sen. Bill Tallman of Albuquerque, both Democrats, said they expect vehicle-sales legislation to be proposed in future legislative sessions. Both lawmakers attended Thursday’s event.

A 2019 proposal would have allowed electric vehicle manufacturers to sell directly to the public under certain conditions. Local auto dealers opposed the bill, arguing their businesses already support thousands of employees.

Tallman, who drives a Tesla himself, said electric vehicles “are the future” and New Mexico’s laws should keep up.

“I just think we’re going to see more and more companies using this model,” Wirth said of the Tesla store.

The 7,000-square-foot Tesla store lies in what was once a casino building near the Nambé Falls Travel Center. The casino closed in 2016 after about two years of operation.

Two cars were hoisted on automotive lifts Thursday as Tesla enthusiasts and others celebrated the opening.

Perez, the pueblo governor, said Tesla will support tutors and scholarships for Nambé Pueblo students. He delivered some of his remarks in Tewa, a native language, as he welcomed visitors to the site along U.S. Highway 285.

The company’s values, Perez said, match the pueblo’s commitment to environmental protection.

Sen. Luján, who grew up nearby, said the project represents investment “in rural America” and that he looks forward to seeing the first Tesla pickup truck.

Heinrich, who has a mechanical engineering degree, said he and other students at the University of Missouri once designed and built a solar-powered car for a race across the United States.

“I’ve seen this coming for a long time, but now it’s real,” he said of the growing prevalence of electric vehicles.

For Tesla owners, the new location will make it easier to get car repairs and avoid the drive to service centers out of state, such as in Colorado or Arizona.

Brian Dear, founder and president of the Tesla Owners Club of New Mexico, said he hopes the project will also encourage more people to buy electric vehicles as a way to cut gasoline costs and reduce carbon emissions.

“There’s nothing better if you’re buying a car than to get in it and drive around,” Dear said. “I was completely sold when I did a test drive in 2013” in San Diego.

He estimated about 1,500 Tesla vehicles are registered in New Mexico.

A standard-range Tesla Model 3 costs about $39,990 before potential discounts are factored in, according to the Tesla website. An autopilot navigation feature costs $10,000 extra.

 

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Well, well guess they found a loop hole in New Mexico to sell and service your beloved Tesla's @geek

Tesla picks Nambé pueblo for first NM store

NAMBÉ PUEBLO — Sleek electric vehicles now sit inside an old casino north of Santa Fe as part of a first-of-its-kind project between Tesla and a tribal nation.

Nambé Pueblo leaders on Thursday joined U.S. Sens. Martin Heinrich and Ben Ray Luján to highlight the partnership and promote electric vehicles as part of a broader strategy to address climate change.

The new Tesla sales and service center is the first in New Mexico. It’s also the first Tesla facility, officials said, on Native American land in the United States.

“This truly represents a historic moment,” Nambé Pueblo Gov. Phillip Perez told a crowed at the event Thursday.

The pueblo location is critical. New Mexico law prohibits vehicle manufacturers from selling directly to consumers rather than through a franchise dealership, and efforts to allow Tesla storefronts and service centers have repeatedly failed in the Legislature, often amid tense debate.

But the Tesla store sits within the boundaries of a tribal nation, not subject to the state law.

Even so, Senate Majority Leader Peter Wirth of Santa Fe and Sen. Bill Tallman of Albuquerque, both Democrats, said they expect vehicle-sales legislation to be proposed in future legislative sessions. Both lawmakers attended Thursday’s event.

A 2019 proposal would have allowed electric vehicle manufacturers to sell directly to the public under certain conditions. Local auto dealers opposed the bill, arguing their businesses already support thousands of employees.

Tallman, who drives a Tesla himself, said electric vehicles “are the future” and New Mexico’s laws should keep up.

“I just think we’re going to see more and more companies using this model,” Wirth said of the Tesla store.

The 7,000-square-foot Tesla store lies in what was once a casino building near the Nambé Falls Travel Center. The casino closed in 2016 after about two years of operation.

Two cars were hoisted on automotive lifts Thursday as Tesla enthusiasts and others celebrated the opening.

Perez, the pueblo governor, said Tesla will support tutors and scholarships for Nambé Pueblo students. He delivered some of his remarks in Tewa, a native language, as he welcomed visitors to the site along U.S. Highway 285.

The company’s values, Perez said, match the pueblo’s commitment to environmental protection.

Sen. Luján, who grew up nearby, said the project represents investment “in rural America” and that he looks forward to seeing the first Tesla pickup truck.

Heinrich, who has a mechanical engineering degree, said he and other students at the University of Missouri once designed and built a solar-powered car for a race across the United States.

“I’ve seen this coming for a long time, but now it’s real,” he said of the growing prevalence of electric vehicles.

For Tesla owners, the new location will make it easier to get car repairs and avoid the drive to service centers out of state, such as in Colorado or Arizona.

Brian Dear, founder and president of the Tesla Owners Club of New Mexico, said he hopes the project will also encourage more people to buy electric vehicles as a way to cut gasoline costs and reduce carbon emissions.

“There’s nothing better if you’re buying a car than to get in it and drive around,” Dear said. “I was completely sold when I did a test drive in 2013” in San Diego.

He estimated about 1,500 Tesla vehicles are registered in New Mexico.

A standard-range Tesla Model 3 costs about $39,990 before potential discounts are factored in, according to the Tesla website. An autopilot navigation feature costs $10,000 extra.

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That's exactly the talk and rumble I hear happening in CT, they've been demoing Tesla at the Casino and may be the place for the loophole for sure. I hope it is..!!!

 

[globalnavigator]

At least with gasoline, you can fill up anytime...as long as you're willing to pay the price.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/4ef85eba-133f-11ec-a8a6-db0b408d06d6

 

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At least with gasoline, you can fill up anytime...as long as you're willing to pay the price.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/4ef85eba-133f-11ec-a8a6-db0b408d06d6

And they have gas...

 

[globalnavigator]

Good idea to always have options. My friend has one of these and it is a perfect complement to his ICE vehicle. When we had the recent multi-day gas pinch in the southeast, he just used this for grocery and local trips. Had no need to use up his gas tank unnecessarily.
https://www.radpowerbikes.com/collections/electric-bikes/products/radwagon-electric-cargo-bike